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BNP election candidate arrested over Qur'an burning

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:55 pm

Footage leaked to the Observer shows Welsh Assembly candidate setting fire to Islamic holy book in his garden.


Sion Owens, a BNP candiate for the forthcoming Welsh Assembly elections. Nick Griffin is not believed to have known about the Qur'an burning film.


A senior member of the BNP who burned a copy of the Qur'an in his garden has been arrested following an investigation by the Observer.

Footage of the burning shows Sion Owens, 40, from south Wales and a candidate for the forthcoming Welsh Assembly elections, soaking the Qur'an in kerosene and setting fire to it.

A video clip of the act, leaked to the Observer and passed immediately to South Wales police, provoked fierce criticism from the government.

A statement from the Home Office said: "The government absolutely condemns the burning of the Qur'an. It is fundamentally offensive to the values of our pluralist and tolerant society. We equally condemn any attempts to create divisions between communities and are committed to ensuring that everyone has the freedom to live their lives free from fear of targeted hostility or harassment on the grounds of a particular characteristic, such as religion."

Owens, who has previously stood for a council seat, was last Tuesday unveiled by the BNP as a candidate for next month's assembly elections. Several photographs place him alongside party leader Nick Griffin, including one showing the pair embracing during a party conference.

The footage comes at a time of heightened tensions. Internationally, protests continued in Afghanistan last week against the recent Qur'an burning by the US pastor Terry Jones in his Florida church.

Jones's act triggered a wave of global violence that nine days ago led to protesters storming a UN Afghan compound, killing three UN staff members and four Nepalese guards. Police had feared that far-right British extremists might attempt to stir tensions here by replicating Jones's stunt.

Superintendent Phil Davies of South Wales police, who led the investigation, said: "We always adopt an extremely robust approach to allegations of this sort and find this sort of intolerance unacceptable in our society."

Owens was arrested within hours of police receiving the video. A second person, believed to have filmed the Qur'an burning, is also in police custody.

It is unclear when the incident took place, but the five-minute footage is already understood to have been circulated to extremists. There is no evidence that Griffin was aware of the film.

When Jones went ahead with his "punishment" of the Qur'an on 20 March it was initially largely ignored until it was streamed on the internet and preserved on YouTube.

The footage of the burning in Britain clearly identifies Owens, who is wearing a "Whitelaw No Surrender" T-shirt. The film starts with the Qur'an lying in a Quality Street tin before Owens begins dousing the holy book in flammable liquid and then setting fire to it. The camera zooms in as the Qur'an burns.

Saqed Mueen of the international security thinktank, the Royal United Services Institute, described the act as proof of the "globalisation of outrageous stunts". Concern over Islamophobic provocation among far-right elements is epitomised by the rise of the English Defence League, which was founded in 2009 and claims to have thousands of members in scores of regional branches.

The EDL's rise coincides with the decline of the BNP as a political force, evident during last year's poor general election performance. Although Griffin's party had 338 candidates in the parliamentary elections, a record number for a far-right party in Britain, its share of the vote in key seats fell.

The BNP fared little better in the council elections, failing in its concerted attempt to win control of Barking and Dagenham council and losing all but two of its 28 wards.

The news that a senior BNP figure has been arrested after a film showing him burning the Qur'an will only discredit the party further, according to anti-fascist campaigners.

Photographs show Owens at a Welsh Defence League demonstration with a group of alleged Nazis including Wayne Baldwin, who has been pictured posing in front of a swastika flag. The Observer has also been passed images that show Owens's face apparently superimposed on Hitler's body.

Owens was officially announced last week as the BNP's number three candidate for the South Wales West constituency of the Welsh assembly.

In 2008 he stood for the BNP in council elections, polling almost a fifth of votes in his ward but finishing last out of three candidates. His campaign posters at the time show him standing on a ticket against "mass immigration, enforced multiculturalism, political correctness".

Although the BNP announced a record number of candidates for the Welsh assembly elections last week, anti-fascist groups maintain the party is a fading force, claiming that it has struggled to field candidates in the forthcoming local elections in areas that used to be target seats.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/09/bnp-candidate-arrested-quran-burning


Not great reading Mr Doodles and as long the BNP get this kind of press it will continue to be viewed as extreme No

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:32 pm

He'll be facing jail time for this as it will be classed as a hate crime and dealt with very severely.

A "hate crime" normally adds around 18 months to 3 years onto your sentence but only if its committed by a white guy.

If you are a muslim burning poppies actually DURING the two minutes silence at the Cenotaph then you will be liable only to a small fine which will be paid by the UK taxpayer if you are a welfare claimant.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:46 pm

Seren wrote:He'll be facing jail time for this as it will be classed as a hate crime and dealt with very severely.

A "hate crime" normally adds around 18 months to 3 years onto your sentence but only if its committed by a white guy.

If you are a muslim burning poppies actually DURING the two minutes silence at the Cenotaph then you will be liable only to a small fine which will be paid by the UK taxpayer if you are a welfare claimant.

Blimey, I'm in the politics section affraid Someone lead me to a safe exit please??!!! pale

There shouldn't be double standards Seren I agree. However, it doesn't change the fact that this is wrong and an incredibly stupid thing to do in his position No

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:56 pm

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Blimey, I'm in the politics section affraid Someone lead me to a safe exit please??!!! pale

There shouldn't be double standards Seren I agree. However, it doesn't change the fact that this is wrong and an incredibly stupid thing to do in his position No


Have to agree FTL. Burning the poppy was a very nasty act, but the reasoning behind it was that the troops that we see as heroes, these people do not because of atrocities that have happened in Iraq/Afganistan and the civilians killed there. However much we wish that those things had not happened, they did. I think the people burning the poppies should have had a much stronger sentence. If a muslim burnt a bible we would be outraged and with good reason. Burning a koran is done simply to cause trouble and vilify a religion, the person concerned obviously has not got two brain cells to rub together.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:59 pm

It absolutely is wrong FTL and completely pointless as well. Why martyr yourself when it will achieve absolutely nothing.

As a potential candidate he should be engaging people with their real worries about muslims, the huge amounts of halal meat that our country is now producing, the sexual grooming of the most vulnerable girls in our society, the racism and hate being taught in muslim faith school.s

I bloody hate these politicians who go for all this showboating. Do your job man and keep the theatrics out of it for pity's sake.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:01 pm

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Have to agree FTL. Burning the poppy was a very nasty act, but the reasoning behind it was that the troops that we see as heroes, these people do not because of atrocities that have happened in Iraq/Afganistan and the civilians killed there. However much we wish that those things had not happened, they did. I think the people burning the poppies should have had a much stronger sentence. If a muslim burnt a bible we would be outraged and with good reason. Burning a koran is done simply to cause trouble and vilify a religion, the person concerned obviously has not got two brain cells to rub together.

I hate hypocrisy and whilst all parties here, the BNP candidate plus the muslim poppy burners, have displayed a huge amount of disrespect in their actions how exactly had it in anyway achieved anything.

Nothing, pointless hateful acts designed to fracture society further.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:04 pm

Seren wrote:

I hate hypocrisy and whilst all parties here, the BNP candidate plus the muslim poppy burners, have displayed a huge amount of disrespect in their actions how exactly had it in anyway achieved anything.

Nothing, pointless hateful acts designed to fracture society further.

Exactly. Look at problems logically, find a solution that does not involve hatred but is just and fair and do something about it. Trying to stir up the worst feelings in people is always counter productive.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:25 pm

sassy1261 wrote:

Exactly. Look at problems logically, find a solution that does not involve hatred but is just and fair and do something about it. Trying to stir up the worst feelings in people is always counter productive.

Dialogue is the only way people are going to be able to solve our issues and there should naturally be a level playing field when it comes to the justice system.

The more the justice system is skewered in favour of the minority the more martyrs will push the boundaries so they can highlight the injustice in a unhelpful way.

We have a huge cultural difference here in Europe between islam and christian Europe which after years of mis-management our leaders are barely coming to terms with.

In Holland they are preparing to vote on banning halal meat whilst in France the burqa ban has proved very popular.

Meanwhile what do our leaders do, carry on as before in the same direction. Idiots, rather than take the majority viewpoint on board they seem hellbent on "forcing" the British public to act and as history shows the British do not riot or rise up very often for one very good reason....

We are just too awfully good at it.

Our spineless prime minister meanwhile prances about the globe, belittling our country, handing out huge amounts of our cash to failed terrorist states all the time whilst hand-wringing about how awful us British were in times past.

I've got news for you Cameron, its the future you need to have your eye on man, not the past.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:27 pm

Be interesting how the Courts deal with it, if it reaches them, as the last example of this, was thrown out! Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:32 pm

The man has merely tied up police time and now the courts over an irrelevance.

We want our politicians to actually do something, make a difference, speak up for us, how is burning a book really going to help.

Its just an expression of hate after all.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:40 pm

Seren wrote:The man has merely tied up police time and now the courts over an irrelevance.

We want our politicians to actually do something, make a difference, speak up for us, how is burning a book really going to help.

Its just an expression of hate after all.

Exactly Seren, we all want to see positive change. The guy has let himself and his party down as a result of his own stupidity. No

If the BNP want's to be taken seriously it cannot have candidates such as these Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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