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Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by MrDoodles on Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:54 pm
The Lefts TRUE feelings about our soldiers dying! 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Royal-Wootton-Bassett-Cartoon-In-The-Guardian-Sparks-Outrage-Among-Senior-Politicians/Article/201103315954542?lpos=Politics_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15954542_Royal_Wootton_Bassett_Cartoon_In_The_Guardian_Sparks_Outrage_Among_Senior_Politicians
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by sprite on Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:33 pm
Have you been looking at the other forum? Debunker's absolutely disgusting thread about this. He's actually changed his avatar to a picture of this cartoon. People like him are scum, especially as they're living in the UK in safety because of the soldiers who they despise.
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by Guest on Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:54 am
I cant decide if debunker posts all that for effect or if he really is as ignorant and creepy as his posts make him appear.
Whatever the reason he is a poor excuse for a man!
Whatever the reason he is a poor excuse for a man!
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by victorismyhero on Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:18 pm
molly wrote:I cant decide if debunker posts all that for effect or if he really is as ignorant and creepy as his posts make him appear.
Whatever the reason he is a poor excuse for a man!
People like debunker should be found and handed over to the RMP for use as a crash test dummy, for their dog training program. they would find him easily enough his odious reek must permeate the air for yards....
AND...soley for this, that bastion of the left the guardian....should be closed down.....
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by MrDoodles on Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:50 pm
We shouldn't really be discussing someone from another Forum, but, for me, he sums exactly, what is wrong with this Country! 
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by Drinky on Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:52 pm
It is the lowest point that Debunker has reached. The man leaves a slime trail as he moves.
Drinky has resigned as an Elder on there to ensure that his opposition to Debunker doesn't give Debunker ammunition against the site.
I agree with victory he and Steven Bell should get up in front of an audience of soldiers in Afghanistan and tell them how funny it is to see them come home in coffins.
Oh yes what fun would be had.
The Guardian has also reached new depths with this. This is a clear signal from the Editors of the Guardian about what they think of our Armed Forces.
Drinky has resigned as an Elder on there to ensure that his opposition to Debunker doesn't give Debunker ammunition against the site.
I agree with victory he and Steven Bell should get up in front of an audience of soldiers in Afghanistan and tell them how funny it is to see them come home in coffins.
Oh yes what fun would be had.
The Guardian has also reached new depths with this. This is a clear signal from the Editors of the Guardian about what they think of our Armed Forces.
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by sprite on Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:21 pm
The irony in the Debunker thread on this is that one of his sidekicks said he was right to say what he did because of his right to free speech, which a lot of people died for to protect. I asked if he appreciated the irony - in that the people who died to protect his rights were mainly the soldiers he's slagging off, but he honestly didn't get it!
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by sprite on Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:03 am
Here's Steve Bell's cartoon for today - more pisstaking of the British/West, but he shoots himself in the foot as seeing the other side as monsters and harbingers of death and destruction.
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by MrDoodles on Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:27 am
sprite wrote:Here's Steve Bell's cartoon for today - more pisstaking of the British/West, but he shoots himself in the foot as seeing the other side as monsters and harbingers of death and destruction.
Can't we call far at "Fatwa" against him!
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by Guest on Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:27 am
Ok, well, I am a Guardian Reader. The paper tends to reflect my views well- which is what you want from a paper imo.
Steve Bell is a very good artist. Many of his cartoons are hilarious. Whilst I don't agree with the strip in question however I will say this: It IS only a cartoon- and more to the point, one that is only represetative of HIS view!
We all like to hark on about how this is a country of free speech when it suits us; well he is doing no more now. And it isn't a direct attack on our lads either, though I appreciate it may come across as such.
It is an attack on the glorification of war, which some people may see of awarding the 'Royal' title to Wootton Bassett on the basis of their celebrating our soliders.
I do not agree with that pov. Many writing for and reading the Guardian will not agree. But when do we ever all agree.
On Deunker. He is clearly deliberatley seeking to provoke. And his attacks on Drinkys son are disgusting and the worst I have heard of anyone on there. I don't support that; it is vile. Needless to say any such things said here will be removed immediately
Steve Bell is a very good artist. Many of his cartoons are hilarious. Whilst I don't agree with the strip in question however I will say this: It IS only a cartoon- and more to the point, one that is only represetative of HIS view!
We all like to hark on about how this is a country of free speech when it suits us; well he is doing no more now. And it isn't a direct attack on our lads either, though I appreciate it may come across as such.
It is an attack on the glorification of war, which some people may see of awarding the 'Royal' title to Wootton Bassett on the basis of their celebrating our soliders.
I do not agree with that pov. Many writing for and reading the Guardian will not agree. But when do we ever all agree.
On Deunker. He is clearly deliberatley seeking to provoke. And his attacks on Drinkys son are disgusting and the worst I have heard of anyone on there. I don't support that; it is vile. Needless to say any such things said here will be removed immediately
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by Drinky on Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:29 am
I understand free speech and indeed think his post should stand as a warning to others about how dangerous Debunker is.
As to Steve Bell I wonder how funny you might find a cartoon of a gay man being executed by the Taliban with a funny byline. The answer is you would be appalled as indeed would any decent individual. Steve Bell better hope he never finds himself in a bar with a group of sqauddies. They are very close after a tour of duty and when some of them are killed it affects them deeply.
For someone to laught about it would be beyond comprehension to them.
I know you to be a decent bloke so I'll accept what you say but you are very very wrong on this.
This is beyond the pale and Mr Bellend will inevitably pay for his error of judgement sooner or later. I wish I was rich enough to buy a newspaper he would never work again.
As to Steve Bell I wonder how funny you might find a cartoon of a gay man being executed by the Taliban with a funny byline. The answer is you would be appalled as indeed would any decent individual. Steve Bell better hope he never finds himself in a bar with a group of sqauddies. They are very close after a tour of duty and when some of them are killed it affects them deeply.
For someone to laught about it would be beyond comprehension to them.
I know you to be a decent bloke so I'll accept what you say but you are very very wrong on this.
This is beyond the pale and Mr Bellend will inevitably pay for his error of judgement sooner or later. I wish I was rich enough to buy a newspaper he would never work again.
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by victorismyhero on Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:15 pm
eilzel wrote:Ok, well, I am a Guardian Reader. The paper tends to reflect my views well- which is what you want from a paper imo.
Steve Bell is a very good artist. Many of his cartoons are hilarious. Whilst I don't agree with the strip in question however I will say this: It IS only a cartoon- and more to the point, one that is only represetative of HIS view!
so ...It is ONLY a cartoon eh...well so were the cartoons of mo and cronies....but the muzzies rioted over it, and the left were out in force telling us how terrible these cartoons were...
as for it being representative of HIS views only...that rag is guilty by association for allowing it to be printed....
We all like to hark on about how this is a country of free speech when it suits us; well he is doing no more now. And it isn't a direct attack on our lads either, though I appreciate it may come across as such.
dead right it comes across as such, and knowing the odious rag it was printed in...thats how it WAS indeed meant...
it never fails to amuse me how the left prattle on about "freedom of speech" but only when its freedom for our enemies and the treacherous colaborators who give them space to use against us, yet would jump on me from a great height if i was to express MY opinion openly and verbally, via the good offices of that most ardent defender of freedom Mr Trevor Phillips..... Freedom of speech as we know has "limits" (or should have) and this "cartoon" this "humour" transgresses those limits by a long way.
It is an attack on the glorification of war, which some people may see of awarding the 'Royal' title to Wootton Bassett on the basis of their celebrating our soliders.
So, tell me...how can a town which stands in respect of our brave service personell, who died serving their country, is glorification of war. It isnt and in no way can any person with even a shred of intelligence see it in that way. it matters NOT if the cause of the conflict is right or wrong, the point is these men died IN THE SERVICE OF THEIR COUNTRY, they are not the ones who decide on the "morality " of any situation...they serve...full stop. And thus it matters not and cannot be "glorification of war" for a town recieving the bodies of our fallen showing respect, not only to the men but to the families of these brave and selfless soldiers.
I do not agree with that pov. Many writing for and reading the Guardian will not agree. But when do we ever all agree.
whilst you may not agree with the point you made, to even consider it an excuse for this is very wrong indeed
On Deunker. He is clearly deliberatley seeking to provoke. And his attacks on Drinkys son are disgusting and the worst I have heard of anyone on there. I don't support that; it is vile. Needless to say any such things said here will be removed immediately
at least we agree on something
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by victorismyhero on Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:21 pm
OH and I'd like to remind you of something Rudyard kipling wrote
"Its tommy this and tommy that and kick him out, the brute
But its "saviour of the country" when the guns begin to shoot
the lefts view to a tee...denigrate our brave lads....but oh ...if their comfy lives were openly threatened then they would cry a different song.....
"Its tommy this and tommy that and kick him out, the brute
But its "saviour of the country" when the guns begin to shoot
the lefts view to a tee...denigrate our brave lads....but oh ...if their comfy lives were openly threatened then they would cry a different song.....
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by Guest on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:10 pm
Oh less of the talk of 'the left' for goodness sake!
My opinion is my own not representative of my alignment. For the record i had no issue with the Mohammed cartoons either. My opinion is not wrong, it is an observation without angry bias.
My opinion is my own not representative of my alignment. For the record i had no issue with the Mohammed cartoons either. My opinion is not wrong, it is an observation without angry bias.
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Re: Wootton Bassett Cartoon Sparks Outrage
by MrDoodles on Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:45 pm
Anyway, I thought Eilzel was supposed to be a "Liberal" rather than a "Lefty" 
Skemster tells me that we have a RW Liberal Government, so doesn't that make Eilzel a Tory? 
Skemster tells me that we have a RW Liberal Government, so doesn't that make Eilzel a Tory?
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