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Post by Aspca4ever on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:36 pm

OMG - I'd be screwed with my mobility issues; couldn't stand in those long lines - waiting to be probed/poked/prodded and questioned.  My muscle & joint pain would escalate - my brain would fog up and I'd be a mumbling/sweaty mess and they'd be carting my chubby butt off to some unknown point of Neverland!!! 
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Re: Leaving Tel Aviv: My Experience Through Airport Security at Ben Gurion

Post by Sassy on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:44 pm

It's a lot worse if you have an arab sounding name, even if you are a citizen of Israel, American, British etc.



Watch in horror as Maysoon Zayid, an American woman of Palestinian descent was deprived of her medication and sanitary napkins and was left to bleed in the airport terminal !!!!!!
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Re: Leaving Tel Aviv: My Experience Through Airport Security at Ben Gurion

Post by Sassy on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:47 pm

Black and Jewish? Try Explaining That to Israel's Airport Security

Michael Twitty, a Jewish African-American culinary historian, who was a guest of the Jewish Film festival in Jerusalem, endured humiliating treatment at Ben-Gurion Airport. Irrespective of religion, race or gender? Not in these parts.

He teaches Hebrew in Jewish schools in the United States, underwent an Orthodox conversion to Judaism and has been profiled in major Jewish newspapers everywhere (including Haaretz, on December 19, 2014). He was in Israel during Hanukkah as a special guest of the Jewish Film Festival held at the Jerusalem Cinematheque. But when Michael Twitty arrived at Ben-Gurion Airport to fly back to the U.S. he was interrogated rudely, his Judaism was called into question, his personal effects were taken from him – and he seethed with anger and humiliation.

In 2007, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel went to court against the demeaning treatment meted out to non-Jews at Ben-Gurion Airport and at El Al check-in venues abroad. ACRI noted that the security checks to which Israel’s Arab citizens are subjected at airports are far more rigorous than those undergone by Jewish passengers, including those who are not Israeli citizens. The fact that a passenger is an Arab are apparently reason enough to subject him to a thorough check, even if there were no suspicions against him. ACRI requested that equal and substantive criteria be set for the scope and level of security checks for all passengers, Jewish and Arab alike. Earlier this year, the state announced that changes had been introduced in the method of security checks, but according to ACRI they do not remedy the problems it cited.

But it seems that Arabs are not the only “usual suspects.” During the check of Twitty he was separated from his partner, who is non-Jewish and white. He was asked the standard questions and allowed through, but Twitty’s story was just beginning. The security woman “asked me had I been to Israel before,” Twitty said in an email. “I replied that I had. She asked when and I answered honestly, 2004.” When she asked why I had visited then, “I replied [that] I came on Taglit [the Birthright project]. She immediately gave me an incredulous look.”

What to expect at Ben Gurion Airport

Twitty explained to her that he was Jewish. “She asked me why I was in Israel. I explained I was invited to the Jerusalem Jewish Film Festival, which could also be easily verified. She then asked what I did for a living, and I explained I was a food writer and taught Hebrew school in America. She really didn’t understand some of what I was telling her, and besides that her look changed to a tight disingenuous smile… Both my friend and I deduced from her body language that she did not believe a word out of my mouth, she looked really disturbed, even worried. In fact, had she checked, she would have found out that I won a first-place essay prize from Birthright that year.”

The woman consulted with someone, and then a different agent, a man, came over and “asked me the standard security questions, rapid-fire. He asked me a lot of questions about who packed my bags and what was in my bags. He asked me even more questions to verify my Jewish identity. Did I speak Hebrew?... He asked me if I converted Orthodox, and I said yes." Twitty even showed his him pictures of his conversion certificate. "He asked ‘How did you get this? Who gave you this paper?’… He asked me what shul (synagogue) I belonged to and when I went there and for what purpose. Every few sentences he would reverse the order and re-ask the same questions... I used as many Hebrew/Jewish terms as I could muster.”

CIA shows agents how to keep their cover at Israeli airport

At the next stage of the check-in process, Twitty was questioned by a third security agent, “who did a short repeat interview of what I dealt with downstairs, only this time I was more adamant about being Jewish... He was adamant about re-asking the same questions about weapons and liquids and assumptions that I was working with someone. I didn’t get it.” Twitty noticed that “all of the Black people I saw that evening were in the same line [as I was], including an older African American woman in a wheelchair. There were several Arab or Muslim women in the same line.” Twitty’s bags did not arrive with him when he landed in the United States.

Demeaned at Ben-Gurion airport: 'Now you know what Jews endured'

He adds, “This was a lovely trip to Israel before that moment… I know that my experience was not uncommon and I know some groups get far more scrutiny, face detainment, imprisonment or worse. I was scared, upset and offended. I knew it wasn’t that bad in the larger scheme, but I was also keenly aware of the double standard based on color and appearance.” It felt, he says, “like someone had hit me with a bat in the stomach. It was just a reminder of how some people will never see me as Jewish… I thought being a ‘guest of honor’ meant something.”

A spokesperson for the Airports Authority stated, “We regret the passenger’s feelings and are doing all we can to ensure the passengers’ safety and security.”

read more: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.635487
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Re: Leaving Tel Aviv: My Experience Through Airport Security at Ben Gurion

Post by Shady2 on Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:02 pm

Sassy wrote:Black and Jewish? Try Explaining That to Israel's Airport Security

Michael Twitty, a Jewish African-American culinary historian, who was a guest of the Jewish Film festival in Jerusalem, endured humiliating treatment at Ben-Gurion Airport. Irrespective of religion, race or gender? Not in these parts.

He teaches Hebrew in Jewish schools in the United States, underwent an Orthodox conversion to Judaism and has been profiled in major Jewish newspapers everywhere (including Haaretz, on December 19, 2014). He was in Israel during Hanukkah as a special guest of the Jewish Film Festival held at the Jerusalem Cinematheque. But when Michael Twitty arrived at Ben-Gurion Airport to fly back to the U.S. he was interrogated rudely, his Judaism was called into question, his personal effects were taken from him – and he seethed with anger and humiliation.

In 2007, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel went to court against the demeaning treatment meted out to non-Jews at Ben-Gurion Airport and at El Al check-in venues abroad. ACRI noted that the security checks to which Israel’s Arab citizens are subjected at airports are far more rigorous than those undergone by Jewish passengers, including those who are not Israeli citizens. The fact that a passenger is an Arab are apparently reason enough to subject him to a thorough check, even if there were no suspicions against him. ACRI requested that equal and substantive criteria be set for the scope and level of security checks for all passengers, Jewish and Arab alike. Earlier this year, the state announced that changes had been introduced in the method of security checks, but according to ACRI they do not remedy the problems it cited.

But it seems that Arabs are not the only “usual suspects.” During the check of Twitty he was separated from his partner, who is non-Jewish and white. He was asked the standard questions and allowed through, but Twitty’s story was just beginning. The security woman “asked me had I been to Israel before,” Twitty said in an email. “I replied that I had. She asked when and I answered honestly, 2004.” When she asked why I had visited then, “I replied [that] I came on Taglit [the Birthright project]. She immediately gave me an incredulous look.”

What to expect at Ben Gurion Airport

Twitty explained to her that he was Jewish. “She asked me why I was in Israel. I explained I was invited to the Jerusalem Jewish Film Festival, which could also be easily verified. She then asked what I did for a living, and I explained I was a food writer and taught Hebrew school in America. She really didn’t understand some of what I was telling her, and besides that her look changed to a tight disingenuous smile… Both my friend and I deduced from her body language that she did not believe a word out of my mouth, she looked really disturbed, even worried. In fact, had she checked, she would have found out that I won a first-place essay prize from Birthright that year.”

The woman consulted with someone, and then a different agent, a man, came over and “asked me the standard security questions, rapid-fire. He asked me a lot of questions about who packed my bags and what was in my bags. He asked me even more questions to verify my Jewish identity. Did I speak Hebrew?... He asked me if I converted Orthodox, and I said yes." Twitty even showed his him pictures of his conversion certificate. "He asked ‘How did you get this? Who gave you this paper?’… He asked me what shul (synagogue) I belonged to and when I went there and for what purpose. Every few sentences he would reverse the order and re-ask the same questions... I used as many Hebrew/Jewish terms as I could muster.”

CIA shows agents how to keep their cover at Israeli airport

At the next stage of the check-in process, Twitty was questioned by a third security agent, “who did a short repeat interview of what I dealt with downstairs, only this time I was more adamant about being Jewish... He was adamant about re-asking the same questions about weapons and liquids and assumptions that I was working with someone. I didn’t get it.” Twitty noticed that “all of the Black people I saw that evening were in the same line [as I was], including an older African American woman in a wheelchair. There were several Arab or Muslim women in the same line.” Twitty’s bags did not arrive with him when he landed in the United States.

Demeaned at Ben-Gurion airport: 'Now you know what Jews endured'

He adds, “This was a lovely trip to Israel before that moment… I know that my experience was not uncommon and I know some groups get far more scrutiny, face detainment, imprisonment or worse. I was scared, upset and offended. I knew it wasn’t that bad in the larger scheme, but I was also keenly aware of the double standard based on color and appearance.” It felt, he says, “like someone had hit me with a bat in the stomach. It was just a reminder of how some people will never see me as Jewish… I thought being a ‘guest of honor’ meant something.”

A spokesperson for the Airports Authority stated, “We regret the passenger’s feelings and are doing all we can to ensure the passengers’ safety and security.”

read more: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.635487

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Re: Leaving Tel Aviv: My Experience Through Airport Security at Ben Gurion

Post by Sassy on Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:35 am

Philagain48 wrote:My brother mentioned that he wanted us to visit Egypt next year.

The foreign office advise not to visit there as it's very dangerous for non Muslim westerners.

There aren't that many places in the region where you can go anymore, unless you are a Muslim of course.

I like a mixture of things to do while i'm on holiday. It bores the fuck out of me to sit on a beach EVERY day.

I like to visit historical sites and see the culture of a place.

It's a real shame that it's very hard to do that these days due to the extremists.


What a load of bollocks:



There is no FCO advice against travel to Cairo, Alexandria, the tourist areas along the Nile river (including Luxor, Qina, Aswan, Abu Simbel and the Valley of the Kings) and the Red Sea resorts of Sharm el Sheikh and Hurghada.

As a precautionary measure, we are advising against all but essential travel by air to or from Sharm el Sheikh. On 31 October 2015, a flight from Sharm el Sheikh to St Petersburg crashed in North Sinai.

Egyptian and Russian authorities are conducting an investigation. The investigation has not yet formally concluded, but on 17 November 2015 Russian authorities stated that the crash was caused by an explosive device on board the flight.

We are not raising the threat level in the resort. The above advice applies only to air travel to and from Sharm el Sheikh.

We will continue working with the Egyptian Authorities to enable regular flights between the UK and Sharm el Sheikh to resume. We are also liaising with travel companies so that they are able to resume flights and holidays in Sharm el Sheikh as soon as appropriate security arrangements are in place.

Around 231,000 British nationals visited Egypt in 2016. Most visits are trouble-free.


https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt


https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g295398-Activities-Alexandria_Alexandria_Governorate.html


Please don't be giving out false information.



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