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Post by Sassy on Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:19 am

Charity has denounced a speech by the Burmese leader where she claimed 'more than half' Rohingya villages were unaffected

Amnesty International has accused Aung San Suu Kyi and her government of "burying their heads in the sand" and telling "untruths" over what it described as ethnic cleansing of minority Rohingya Muslims in Burma.

The charity has denounced the Nobel Prize Laureate over her response to the crisis which has seen at least 400,000 members of the Muslim ethnic minority flee to Bangladesh to escape a brutal crackdown by the military.

Reports have emerged of mass rape and murder by the armed forces and mobs of Buddhist ethnic majority villagers in the western Rakhine state in what the United Nations has called a "textbook example of ethnic cleansing".

In a live address on Burmese television, Ms Suu Kyi defended her country from international criticism and said "more than half" of  Rohingya villages were not affected by the violence and invited diplomats and foreign observers to visit them to see "why they are not at each other's throats in these particular areas".

Although Ms Suu Kyi is nominally the de facto ruler of Burma since 2016, she is ineligible for the presidency and her regime is still at the mercy of the military junta which has controlled the country since the 1962 coup. The military still continues the majority of seats in the Burmese parliament and remain in control of the country's security.

James Gomez, Amnesty International’s Regional Director for Southeast Asia and the Pacific, said: "Aung San Suu Kyi today demonstrated that she and her government are still burying their heads in the sand over the horrors unfolding in Rakhine State. At times, her speech amounted to little more than a mix of untruths and victim blaming.

"There is overwhelming evidence that security forces are engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. While it was positive to hear Aung San Suu Kyi condemn human rights violations in Rakhine state, she is still silent about the role of the security forces in this.

"Aung San Suu Kyi’s claims that her government 'does not fear international scrutiny' ring hollow. Myanmar has repeatedly said it will not co-operate with the UN-mandated Fact Finding Mission established earlier this year. If Myanmar has nothing to hide, it should allow UN investigators into the country, including Rakhine State. The government must also urgently allow humanitarian actors full and unfettered access to all areas and people in need in the region."

Mr Gomez said the Rohingya had been "trapped in a cycle of abuse and derivation for decades" and were "essentially segregated in Rakhine State, effectively denied citizenship and face severe barriers in accessing health care and other basic services".

The Buddhist-majority in Burma tend to be hostile to the Rohingya and they are dismissed as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh even though most Rohingya have ancestors who have lived in the country for centuries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/aung-san-suu-kyi-burma-myanmar-rohingya-horror-state-persecution-refugee-crisis-a7954561.html


Children as young as 4 or 5 carrying babies through swamps after having seen their parents beheaded or burnt to death, hundreds of thousands dying and fleeing, she will not allow access so saying they are 'happy with scrutiny' is an outright lie. Basically she is a puppet of the military still.
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5 dubious claims Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi made in her speech

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(CNN)Myanmar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi gave a much-anticipated address Tuesday on the ongoing crisis following the exodus of than 400,000 minority Rohingya Muslims from the country.
Speaking for over 30 minutes in English, it's the first time Suu Kyi has addressed the situation in northern Rakhine State or the growing international criticism of her and her government.
However, many of the claims made in her speech are somewhat dubious, with some even appearing to contradict the findings of an official report commissioned by the government and compiled by former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

'We want to find out why this exodus is happening'

Suu Kyi's protestations that the government does not know the root causes of the crisis are peculiar, especially as she repeatedly referenced the Annan report, the Final Report of the Advisory Commission on Rakhine State.
The report, released in August, identified several key issues, including the lack of citizenship for stateless Rohingya Muslims as well as socio-economic challenges facing Rakhine, and police and military action in the state.
Following attacks on border police posts in October 2016, the report said, "subsequent military and police operations led to tens of thousands of Muslims fleeing across the border to Bangladesh."
"While Myanmar has every right to defend its own territory, a highly militarized response is unlikely to bring peace to the area," the report said.
"Unless concerted action -- led by the government and aided by all sectors of the government and society -- is taken soon, we risk the return of another cycle of violence and radicalisation, which will further deepen the chronic poverty that afflicts Rakhine State," Annan said in a statement.
UN human rights chief, Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein, has said the situation in Myanmar seems like a "textbook case of ethnic cleansing," a claim which has been repeated by multiple human rights groups.
Both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have published damning reports on the causes of the exodus, including accusations the Myanmar military has deliberately burned Rohingya villages in a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" against the minority.
They backed up this conclusion with satellite imagery of fires, photos and videos from the ground, and witness testimony of human rights abuses by the Myanmar authorities.

'Myanmar does not fear international scrutiny'

Suu Kyi said she is aware of the "world's attention" focused on Myanmar presently, but said her government "does not fear international scrutiny."
"If you are interested in joining us in our endeavors, please let us know," she added. "We can arrange for you to visit these areas and to ask (those who have stayed) why they have not fled, why they have chosen to remain in their villages."
While the situation may change following Suu Kyi's speech, access to Rakhine State has been heavily restricted to media, human rights groups, and diplomats.
A tightly government-controlled media trip to Rakhine state was organized earlier this month, but permits for journalists to visit the area independently and interview people without official interference have been next to impossible to come by.
Amnesty International has accused the government of denying aid workers access to the state, while in January UN special rapporteur on human rights Yanghee Lee was prevented from visiting some parts of the state for "security reasons."
Doctors Without Borders said it had been providing services to displaced people within Rakhine, "but international staff have not been granted travel authorizations to visit the health facilities since August, whilst national staff have been too afraid to go to work following remarks by Myanmar officials accusing NGOs of colluding with (militant groups)."
In December, Kofi Annan also appeared to criticize the government's denial of access to Rakhine to aid groups and other NGOs.

'The great majority of Rakhines in the state have not joined the exodus'

Rakhine State has a population of around 3.1 million, some one million of which are Rohingya Muslims.
The UN estimates that over 400,000 Rohingya have arrived in Bangladesh since August 25. They joined around one million Rohingya already in the country who traveled there during previous periods of unrest.
Earlier this month, the government said 176 out of 471, or 37.4% of all Rohingya villages were empty of people, and an additional 34 villages were "partially abandoned." During her speech, Suu Kyi said, "50% of the villages of Muslims are intact."
Suu Kyi did not use the word "Rohingya" in her speech to describe Muslims living in Rakhine, so it is difficult to ascertain whether she is referring to the state's entire population, or specifically the Rohingya population the UN and others say have been disproportionally affected by recent violence.
"Rohingya" is a politically charged term in Myanmar and one the government has repeatedly refused to endorse.
The only time Suu Kyi said the word during her speech was when she referred to the ARSA militant group -- the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army.
"She chooses to use the word in relation to a terrorist group, that means that is the only identity that Rohingya will be attached to, from her perspective and she hopes from the international perspective," said Penny Green, a professor of law at Queen Mary University of London.

'We want to find out why this exodus is happening'


Suu Kyi's protestations that the government does not know the root causes of the crisis are peculiar, especially as she repeatedly referenced the Annan report, the Final Report of the Advisory Commission on Rakhine State.
The report, released in August, identified several key issues, including the lack of citizenship for stateless Rohingya Muslims as well as socio-economic challenges facing Rakhine, and police and military action in the state.
Following attacks on border police posts in October 2016, the report said, "subsequent military and police operations led to tens of thousands of Muslims fleeing across the border to Bangladesh."
"While Myanmar has every right to defend its own territory, a highly militarized response is unlikely to bring peace to the area," the report said.
"Unless concerted action -- led by the government and aided by all sectors of the government and society -- is taken soon, we risk the return of another cycle of violence and radicalisation, which will further deepen the chronic poverty that afflicts Rakhine State," Annan said in a statement.
UN human rights chief, Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein, has said the situation in Myanmar seems like a "textbook case of ethnic cleansing," a claim which has been repeated by multiple human rights groups.
Both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have published damning reports on the causes of the exodus, including accusations the Myanmar military has deliberately burned Rohingya villages in a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" against the minority.
They backed up this conclusion with satellite imagery of fires, photos and videos from the ground, and witness testimony of human rights abuses by the Myanmar authorities.
'Myanmar does not fear international scrutiny'
Suu Kyi said she is aware of the "world's attention" focused on Myanmar presently, but said her government "does not fear international scrutiny."
"If you are interested in joining us in our endeavors, please let us know," she added. "We can arrange for you to visit these areas and to ask (those who have stayed) why they have not fled, why they have chosen to remain in their villages."
While the situation may change following Suu Kyi's speech, access to Rakhine State has been heavily restricted to media, human rights groups, and diplomats.
A tightly government-controlled media trip to Rakhine state was organized earlier this month, but permits for journalists to visit the area independently and interview people without official interference have been next to impossible to come by.
Amnesty International has accused the government of denying aid workers access to the state, while in January UN special rapporteur on human rights Yanghee Lee was prevented from visiting some parts of the state for "security reasons."
Doctors Without Borders said it had been providing services to displaced people within Rakhine, "but international staff have not been granted travel authorizations to visit the health facilities since August, whilst national staff have been too afraid to go to work following remarks by Myanmar officials accusing NGOs of colluding with (militant groups)."
In December, Kofi Annan also appeared to criticize the government's denial of access to Rakhine to aid groups and other NGOs.
'The great majority of Rakhines in the state have not joined the exodus'
Rakhine State has a population of around 3.1 million, some one million of which are Rohingya Muslims.
The UN estimates that over 400,000 Rohingya have arrived in Bangladesh since August 25. They joined around one million Rohingya already in the country who traveled there during previous periods of unrest.
Earlier this month, the government said 176 out of 471, or 37.4% of all Rohingya villages were empty of people, and an additional 34 villages were "partially abandoned." During her speech, Suu Kyi said, "50% of the villages of Muslims are intact."
Suu Kyi did not use the word "Rohingya" in her speech to describe Muslims living in Rakhine, so it is difficult to ascertain whether she is referring to the state's entire population, or specifically the Rohingya population the UN and others say have been disproportionally affected by recent violence.
"Rohingya" is a politically charged term in Myanmar and one the government has repeatedly refused to endorse.
The only time Suu Kyi said the word during her speech was when she referred to the ARSA militant group -- the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army.
"She chooses to use the word in relation to a terrorist group, that means that is the only identity that Rohingya will be attached to, from her perspective and she hopes from the international perspective," said Penny Green, a professor of law at Queen Mary University of London.

'All people (in Rakhine) have access to education and health care services'

Suu Kyi's claims Rohingya have access to the same services as their non-Muslim neighbors is contradicted by the Annan commission's report which found Muslims, in particular internally displaced persons, are "deprived of freedom of movement."
"Movement restrictions have a wide range of detrimental effects, including reduced access to education, health and services, strengthened communal segregation, and reduced economic interaction," the report said.
Moreover, it found that "access to health is particularly low within the Muslim community in the northern and central parts of the state. In some areas, Muslims face discriminative obstacles that prevent available lifesaving services from being accessed."
Azeem Ibrahim, a senior fellow at the Center for Global Policy who has visited internally displaced person camps within Myanmar, told CNN the population there "don't have the same level of access at all to anything."

'No clearance operations' since September 5

In late August, Rohingya militants attacked and killed 12 security officers, according to Myanmar's state media, which kicked off the latest round of violence.
Human rights groups and other observers say those attacks were responded to with a major military and security operation that included helicopter attacks and the burning of Rohingya villages. Refugees have also told CNN non-Muslim groups were armed and encouraged to attack their Muslim neighbors.
Government efforts to "restore the situation to normalcy" are succeeding, Suu Kyi said. "Since the fifth of September, there have been no armed clashes and there have been no clearance operations."
However, satellite imagery examined by Amnesty International appears to show more than a dozen burned villages and fires since that date.
Human Rights Watch said 62 villages were torched between August 25 and September 14.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/19/asia/myanmar-aung-san-suu-kyi-speech-facts/index.html


So basically nothing she said stands up to scrutiny.
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I've just fumed about the lack of concern with these poor humans and the lack of media attention; but when we have non-stop insanity being thrown daily from my Orange Blob and the Kim Jung-Un and the constant threat of nuclear war, I suppose anything is subject to pre-empting for media space! 

When they have 'NO SOIL' to claim as their own and it's the land that ties a human to their surrounding ...I suppose you've been left tragically adrift and subject to the whim of any evil doer that wants you GONE!  Evil or Very Mad   
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Post by Sassy on Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:35 pm

Aspca4ever wrote:https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1651370888219028/

I've just fumed about the lack of concern with these poor humans and the lack of media attention; but when we have non-stop insanity being thrown daily from my Orange Blob and the Kim Jung-Un and the constant threat of nuclear war, I suppose anything is subject to pre-empting for media space! 

When they have 'NO SOIL' to claim as their own and it's the land that ties a human to their surrounding ...I suppose you've been left tragically adrift and subject to the whim of any evil doer that wants you GONE!  Evil or Very Mad   


Wherever you look there is madness and those in charge going all out to make the madness worse, or burying their heads in the sands about the atrocities going on around them. I have not lived in such a time, ever.
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Post by Aspca4ever on Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:52 pm

Philagain1 wrote:It's the ideology that's very dangerous (not some of the people)

....I would put Christianity and Islam in the same bracket, but Christianity isn't intent on killing people of difference, during this current times in our histories.

I apologise to a certain extent for any offence caused!

As a gay person, when we are seeing OUR brothers and sisters kiiled in the name of religious dogmire, it's easier to take a side.


Just had a conversation with my house helper/nurse lady; her son is gay - emergency room RN in Houston, TX.
Can't imagine how horrid that was growing up 'GAY' in this back water rural American town was for that precious caring - giving young man.  He was just finishing High School when I moved here, he'd walk by and always speak but I noticed he was a  quiet/polite loner.

Seems very extreme 'pendulum swing cruel' to me that as my nation finally has grown into the 'EQUALITY FOR ALL AMERICANS' that the next elected POTUS has taken the fanatic/bible thumping non-equality insane side and driven that wedge of prejudiced/homophobic/narrow minded/non-biblical behavior and twisted it around to be just 'OK TO TREAT OTHER HUMANS' in this deplorable way!  
Like we finally achieve some level equality and those fear mongering/bat shit crazy fuckers have to ruin it for everyone! Sad    
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Post by Shady2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:43 pm

I wonder when antifa,black lives matter,momentum and the labour party will pool their money together and help the Rohingya muslims?

No doubt they could muster up a few million between them and help out......Just a few maybe.
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Post by Aspca4ever on Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:29 pm

Shady2 wrote:I wonder when antifa,black lives matter,momentum and the labour party will pool their money together and help the Rohingya muslims?

No doubt they could muster up a few million between them and help out......Just a few maybe.

Would not the better question be; 'why can't the local nation be held responsible to protect 'ALL' of their individual faiths/humanitarian issues, instead of forcing them to flee and become a problem for neighboring nations?

Aung San Suu Kyi's new democratic Myanmar
That these events are unfolding in State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi's new democratic Myanmar is all the more surprising. In 1991, she won the Nobel Peace Prize for her principled stand against tyranny.
Despite U.N. demands that Myanmar open its doors to an independent inquiry into human rights violations and possible ethnic cleansing, Suu Kyi has said she'll deny access.
"I don't think there is ethnic cleansing going on," she told the BBC in an April interview. "I think ethnic cleansing is too strong an expression to use for what is happening. I think there is a lot of hostility there. It is Muslims killing Muslims as well. ... It is not just a matter of ethnic cleansing, as you put it. It is a matter of people on different sides of the divide and this divide we are trying to close up as best as possible."
Suu Kyi did not respond to an ABC News request for an interview. She did tell the BBC in the April interview she does not agree with her critics.  "They condemn me because I don't say what they want me to say," she said. "I will not condemn one group over another."
Even calls for cooperation and restraint from U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley, Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai and Pope Francis have gone unanswered.
"Sad news has reached us of the persecution of our Rohingya brothers and sisters. ... Let us pray for our Rohingya brethren," 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/place-call-home-rohingya-facing-abuse-attacks/story?id=49658695 


I get your sarcasm and while I'm often the #1 purveyor of that form of amusing chuckle ...these type of issues just aren't the place to dump my Yuck-Yuck it ups!  Evil or Very Mad
Frankly, I think she sold out long ago to the militia and rode that wave of guaranteed votes right into her capitol and now that she's been anointed, SCREW THOSE NEEDY HUMANS!  Suspect  
She's allowed the military to BLOCK MEDICAL & FOOD AIDE into that region that is now being burnt to the ground and humans slaughtered - she's refused any UN personal to enter that region to monitor the situation and Bangladesh doesn't want those refugee's and is treating them like hostile humans.   No
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Post by Sassy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:54 pm

Totally agree, she has become a puppet. Terrible shame and it's not much wonder she has caved after all they put her through, but caved she has.
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Post by Shady2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:00 pm

Aspca4ever wrote:
Shady2 wrote:I wonder when antifa,black lives matter,momentum and the labour party will pool their money together and help the Rohingya muslims?

No doubt they could muster up a few million between them and help out......Just a few maybe.

Would not the better question be; 'why can't the local nation be held responsible to protect 'ALL' of their individual faiths/humanitarian issues, instead of forcing them to flee and become a problem for neighboring nations?

Aung San Suu Kyi's new democratic Myanmar
That these events are unfolding in State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi's new democratic Myanmar is all the more surprising. In 1991, she won the Nobel Peace Prize for her principled stand against tyranny.
Despite U.N. demands that Myanmar open its doors to an independent inquiry into human rights violations and possible ethnic cleansing, Suu Kyi has said she'll deny access.
"I don't think there is ethnic cleansing going on," she told the BBC in an April interview. "I think ethnic cleansing is too strong an expression to use for what is happening. I think there is a lot of hostility there. It is Muslims killing Muslims as well. ... It is not just a matter of ethnic cleansing, as you put it. It is a matter of people on different sides of the divide and this divide we are trying to close up as best as possible."
Suu Kyi did not respond to an ABC News request for an interview. She did tell the BBC in the April interview she does not agree with her critics.  "They condemn me because I don't say what they want me to say," she said. "I will not condemn one group over another."
Even calls for cooperation and restraint from U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley, Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai and Pope Francis have gone unanswered.
"Sad news has reached us of the persecution of our Rohingya brothers and sisters. ... Let us pray for our Rohingya brethren," 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/place-call-home-rohingya-facing-abuse-attacks/story?id=49658695 


I get your sarcasm and while I'm often the #1 purveyor of that form of amusing chuckle ...these type of issues just aren't the place to dump my Yuck-Yuck it ups!  Evil or Very Mad
Frankly, I think she sold out long ago to the militia and rode that wave of guaranteed votes right into her capitol and now that she's been anointed, SCREW THOSE NEEDY HUMANS!  Suspect  
She's allowed the military to BLOCK MEDICAL & FOOD AIDE into that region that is now being burnt to the ground and humans slaughtered - she's refused any UN personal to enter that region to monitor the situation and Bangladesh doesn't want those refugee's and is treating them like hostile humans.   No

I'm not being sarcastic.Why can't those organizations stump up the money and help out?
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Post by Shady2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:02 pm

Sassy wrote:Totally agree, she has become a puppet.   Terrible shame and it's not much wonder she has caved after all they put her through, but caved she has.

Or perhaps she's as wary of muslims as the rest of normal thinking people are.

Muslims kill where ever they go and that's proven fact.

If they would only evolve into decent people then they will have a chance.
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Post by Sassy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Run away and play Shady, children are being burnt to death and beheaded, you might want to play word games about that, normal people don't.
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Post by Shady2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:12 pm

Sassy wrote:Run away and play Shady, children are being burnt to death and beheaded, you might want to play word games about that, normal people don't.

When will you be going to Bangladesh to help them out?
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Post by Sassy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:15 pm

Afraid I have two invalids to look after myself, but am helping in other ways. Now, think you have bored me enough for one afternoon and gotta make that dinner. Bless you Shady.
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Post by Shady2 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Sassy wrote:Afraid I have two invalids to look after myself, but am helping in other ways.   Now, think you have bored me enough for one afternoon and gotta make that dinner.   Bless you Shady.

Maybe you could ask momentum for help.
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Post by Sassy on Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:13 pm

I don't know who you would ask for help Shady, I think you are beyond it.
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