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Post by Aspca4ever on Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:48 am

As much as my admiration and respect for Pope Francis has renewed my thirst for greater understanding for the pomp & circumstances that make up this - this type of faith ...his slugging away at the legions of repugnant filth and vile perversion that the Priest & Nuns have been able to do within those closed walls, one had to know his battle to purge the sinners was going to be hard fought.

Patton told the media conference: “During the course of the investigation in relation to Cardinal Pell, there has been a lot of reporting in the media and speculation about the process that has been involved in the investigation and also the charging.  For clarity, I want to be perfectly clear, the process and procedures that are being followed in the charging of Cardinal Pell have been the same that have been applied in a whole range of historical sex offences whenever we investigate them."

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my selective edification > > >

“This will be used by the Pope’s critics — and there are many of them jumping up and down with delight, using this against Pope Francis.  Pope Francis might have been slow to understand the weight of the sex abuse allegations but he has learned a lot and he will not in any way minimise it or push under ­carpet. He has learned that will be a big mistake to cover it up,’’
Agnew said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/its-the-end-of-the-road-for-george-pell-vatican-insiders-say/news-story/549f7ac333197a23635024e11910bba0

Pope Francis has made his own enemies within those gilded walls of the Vatican; making such drastic changes as with the pious way he lives - the meals he prefers - the vehicles he expects his staff to drive - his long hours of work.  That's not the 'Hotel Hilton' that it was with the tottering/senile prior Popes that preferred to sleep and remain cloistered in their solitude and pray and write.  No, Pope Francis is a 'mover & a shaker' and he's shaken the Vatican in many - many ways. 



Shaking the very foundation, but still those evil/despicable perpetrators cling onto their divine/comforts and cushy positions. No
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Re: Cardinal George Pell charged with multiple sexual offences

Post by Aspca4ever on Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:32 am

Well, I've been reading and following his exploits - his making waves and for some within the Vatican, have been more like a Tsunami that was much needed.
I thought you'd enjoy #4 & #15 particularly Wink 
He's disappointed me in a couple if issues: not allowing nuns to act in the stead of Priest for those rural/poor regions that just can't keep & support a priest in the manner that they'd prefer, so they just don't stay.  And his Canonizing that horrid/fake/creature Mother Teresa  ...granted there was a huge push for this to happen and the facts weren't well written within the hierarchy of the Vatican so perhaps the flow of factual data was stymied from going up the food chain! Suspect  
But that horrid/hoarder of medical supplies made those poor unfortunate people suffer and exposed them all to communicable diseases by reusing needles and other medical supplies that she was getting new replacements for and mega donations to pay for newer stuff that was to be disposable - NOT REUSED!
But, shoot ...Pope Francis must have missed my messages and didn't get my emails.  Rolling Eyes


1. The Pope has asked members of Vatican to be even more hands on with helping the poor and sick.
The San Francisco Globe
For example, he’s asked Archbiship Konrad Krajewski to step up and perform acts of charity on his behalf, such as personal visits and talks with the sick and old.

2. Unlike his predecessors, Pope Francis chooses humility above luxury possessions.


The San Francisco Globe
He chooses to ride in a Ford Focus while others have chosen more expensive, showy vehicles such as Mercedes or a custom built Renault.

3. He auctioned his bike to benefit the homeless.

The San Francisco Globe
In October, he auctioned his Harley and donated the money to start a soup kitchen in Rome.

4. Pope Francis believes that the Church should not interfere in the lives of gays and lesbians.

The San Francisco Globe

5. He did one of the most important masses of the year in the chapel of a prison and kissed the feet of the prisoners.

The San Francisco Globe

6. He is in favor of the protection of the Amazon rainforest.



The San Francisco Globe
When he visited Brazil, he spent time visiting the local people of the Amazon and supported their cause against those who exploit their lands and resources. In his speeches, he encouraged them to take care of this beautiful garden of humanity.

7. Called and personally comforted a woman who was raped.

The San Francisco Globe
A 44 year old lady who was violated personally wrote to the Pope, and he contacted her and comforted her.

8. He often leaves the Vatican at night to help the homeless.

The San Francisco Globe

9. He hugged and kissed Vinicio Riva who has neurofibramotis, a genetic disorder.

The San Francisco Globe

10. He made it clear that atheists can be great people.



The San Francisco Globe
In early 2013, the Pope broke tradition by saying that the perception of atheists by the church were they were evil people and that was wrong. He said, “Atheists are good people simply because they do good.” President Uruguay (a confirmed atheist) referred to the Pope as a dear neighbor.

11. Condemned to the financial system

In May, the Pope condemned the financial system, class separation, and conversion of the human beings in a consumer machines. The Pope is clear that money is to serve and NOT to govern.

12. Fought against child abuse.



The San Francisco Globe
In recent years, the church has been the center of attention on issues related to child abuse. This Pope was the first to act hard and with a firm hand against these cases. He set up a committee to pursue these cases, and the Vatican changed the law to establish these acts as crimes.

13. Condemned the violence of war in Syria.

The San Francisco Globe
He said: “We want a world of peace, we want to be men and women of peace. We want you in our society torn by divisions and conflicts, explode the peace. No more war. ” He said, “My heart is deeply hurt by what is happening in Syria and distressed by the dramatic developments that have come about there.”

14. Donated to Vatican employee bonuses to charity.



The San Francisco Globe
When you choose a new Pope, Vatican employees usually receive a bonus. This time, the Pope turned the money to charity.

15. Stated that the Church was too obsessed with abortion, gay marriage, and contraception



The San Francisco Globe
He said the church’s stance on these issues was taking an air of obsession. He also criticized the church for forgetting the important belief of true love and prioritizing moral doctrines before serving the poor and marginalized.

16. He encouraged cooperation between Christians and Muslims



The San Francisco Globe

When praying, the Pope proclaimed his respect for the end of Ramadan and encouraged Christians and Muslims to work together to achieve love.

17. The Pope is never shy to take selfies!

The San Francisco Globe

18. A small child somehow made it onto the stage during an important mass. The Pope requested that the child stay on stage with him.
 
The San Francisco Globe
In the midst of a major celebration, he told his security he did not want a child, who jumped on stage to hug him, to be taken away. In fact, he went further by offering the child a seat in a chair.
https://www.littlethings.com/18-acts-from-pope/ 

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Re: Cardinal George Pell charged with multiple sexual offences

Post by Aspca4ever on Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:53 am

I came around with my craving for knowledge about 'WHAT GOD' and 'WHY THIS CHURCH'; having been force fed the faith that my mother drug us 6 kids to Wednesday evening for 'Fellowship' - Sunday school at 10am on Sunday then Church service at 11am till noon and often a warm/fuzzy fellowship luncheon with the membership & pot luck - bring a covered dish so the pastor & his horrid can eat for FREE, right after service --- Southern Baptist Church.  2 steps up from Jehovah Witness and dam near a carbon copy of Zion Lutheran but without the white hair caps for the women folk!
Stick and boring was the basics; hell fire and damnation the weekly sermons ...where we got a refresher course in what/why/how fast we were going straight to hell and Satan was always lurking around in the shadows just waiting for us to waver in our daily duties/thoughts and actions! scratch
And as poor as we {my family} were my thoughts and longing to belong to that beacon of beauty - the Catholic Church that was on the prettiest street - where all the biggest houses were built - the nuns in their neat/crisp robes and those priest were always cheerful and smiling - waved at ya and hollered 'come on over and play ball' or you were NEVER - EVER ALLOWED ONTO THE CHURCH PROPERTY.  
Scared grounds unless you were 'CATHOLIC', and those beads ...why they were a thing to cherish and must have magical powers, cause every good smelling - fancy dressed lady in our rural area carried them.  That was my childhood; what I longed to be part of and the reality of the 'hell-fire & brim-stone' boring/repetitive preacher and mean/whiny children that I got 3 servings of weekly.  We did have glorious acapella music, sometimes with a guitar accompaniment too and our Christmas programs were glorious - redundant but glorious as you age progressed up through the Birth of Christ parts for the Christmas pageant. Razz 
Finding 'OTHER' people from 'OTHER' faiths in my college days ...well, that was like Dorothy finding out those Rubbery slippers could take her home if she just clicked her heels together!  Shocked  
I was shell shocked/amazed/mesmerized/fascinated/and couldn't read enough of all those 'OPTIONS' on how to achieve NERVANA &/or HEAVEN, in 7 easy steps!  LOL   Read
And I'm still sponging up the info as if my life depended upon the data. study   
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Post by Aspca4ever on Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:50 pm

Philagain1 wrote:I'm really paranoid in crowds of people.

I said to Doug that he has to hold my hand ALL the time and if i get too much panic, then we have to go back to the hotel, but he can go out after if he wants.

I too don't like huge crowds of people   pale
I have this area of 'MY SPACE' that I prefer to not have but a select few humans invade when I'm out & about.  But on the other hand, I'm quite a warm/touchy feely/hugging type of human when one-on-one. 
But I've enjoyed just sitting and viewing people from afar and like people watching ...just prefer not to be out there getting pushed/shoved/pulled by the hordes of them when trying to enjoy a social function or entertainment venue.

Keeping my hopes & fingers crossed for you to obtain that 'Judy Garland' room too.  What fun. Very Happy
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