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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 11:03 am

This document offers an answer not only to Britain’s broken model, but also to the global crisis in social democracy



Wanted: a compelling vision for a left-of-centre party. Must invest in economy, modernise essential services, get the well-off to pay more tax. Free wifi on trains a bonus. Someone answered my personal ad! Labour’s manifesto – unveiled today – is a moderate, commonsense set of antidotes to the big problems holding back one of the wealthiest countries on earth. And – intriguingly – here is an attempt to confront the crisis of identity and vision afflicting social democracy not just in Britain, but across the western world.

The manifesto sketches out an answer to Britain’s broken model. The current model is bankrupt: it’s not just unjust, it’s irrational. It concentrates wealth in very few hands – the richest 1,000 British people enjoyed a 14% jump in their fortunes over the past year – while wages have suffered the longest squeeze in generations. It fails to build the housing the country needs. It robs many communities of secure, properly paid, skilled jobs. It leaves most people in poverty in work, earning their poverty. It allows multinational corporations to pay little or no tax while small businesses struggle.

It reduces the country’s national jewel – its National Health Service – to a state of “humanitarian crisis”, as the British Red Cross put it. It saddles its younger generation with debt. It transforms public utilities into cash cows for profiteers who prioritise making a short-term buck over the needs of consumers. We could go on. Again, this is one of the richest countries on earth. It’s not a lack of wealth or resources holding Britain back from curing its many ills: it’s a lack of political willpower.

There’s a commitment that 95% of Britons won’t pay any more tax: fair, after the Tories’ unprecedented squeeze on wages. Instead, the top 5% of earners will be asked to pay a bit more: also fair, given they’re doing better than ever. If companies choose to pay salaries that are 25 times higher than the living wage, they’ll be expected to pay a bit more tax; if they pay salaries 20 times higher than the average income, then a bit more than that. Corporation tax will be hiked, but will still be lower than the United States. A Robin Hood tax on financial transactions – which, as Labour’s Rachel Reeves puts it, both raises money and curbs excessive risk-taking which imperils our economy – would raise even more money, as will an all-out war against tax avoidance.

The billions raised can be invested in education to realise the potential of the next generation – to modernise our NHS so it can meet the needs of an ageing population; to upgrade Britain’s feeble infrastructure; and to build the housing the country desperately needs. Free childcare will reduce pressure on families forced to make difficult decisions about raising families and having a career; while a triple-lock on pensions will protect poorer pensioners who built this country with their hard graft.

No, nobody can pretend Labour isn’t in a very difficult position indeed. But putting aside the debate over the party’s leadership, which can wait until after the election, it is often forgotten that almost all European social democratic parties are in crisis – and nearly none are led by the left. From Greece to France, from Spain to the Netherlands, social democratic parties – lacking as they do a clear vision in the age of globalisation and economic turmoil – have dramatically bled support, or even collapsed altogether. Some Labour rightwingers looked to Germany – one of the western countries least damaged by economic turmoil. The country’s Social Democrats enjoyed a surge in support after replacing their leader, but that has now dissipated. Now they look with beating hearts to France. Let’s park the fact its new president, Emmanuel Macron, is a liberal – not a social democrat – who has just appointed a conservative prime minister, Édouard Philippe. To emulate France, they would need to introduce a presidential system with two rounds of elections, get 24% in the first round, then go head-to-head with a fascist to win a decisive victory.

All social democracy is in crisis, but despite Labour’s multiple ailments, this manifesto represents an attempt to deal with them. Yes, despite Labour’s uptick in polling, the Tories still have a frighteningly big lead. While Labour has apparently increased support among the under-50s compared to the general election two years ago, if the Tories win their predicted landslide, it will be down to Theresa May’s overwhelming advantage among older Britons. Unless Labour both increases turnout among younger voters, and increases support among greying Britons, a big defeat beckons. But whatever happens, a clear outline for how a modern left-of-centre party confronts the challenges of a crisis-ridden wealthy nation has finally been offered. And that is long overdue.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/16/labour-manifesto-left-election-social-democracy


Guess what Phil, that's by your hero Owen Jones, and he wouldn't have had that manifesto to rave about with any other leader by Corbyn.


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Post by victorismyhero on Tue May 16, 2017 3:06 pm

hmmm...I could almost vote for them.....

but somerhow I cant see how the sums add up....

a lot of "hopeing" (as in hopeing the high earners wont bugger off, or practice avoidance)

a lot of hopeing that fims will be willing to pay the 26% corporation tax as opposed to buggering of somewhere else...

He would do well to consider, and tell us, how he intends to deal with the loopholes used by big business to evade and dodge their tax liabilities.

I think he is playing "pie in the sky, jam tomorrow" politics

of course , if its all been costed by Ms Abbot then we are in the clear.......arent we???
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 4:45 pm

Absolutely everything has been costed and the costings published with the manifesto.
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Post by Scrat. on Tue May 16, 2017 4:53 pm

victorismyhero wrote:hmmm...I could almost vote for them.....

but somerhow I cant see how the sums add up....

a lot of "hopeing"  (as in hopeing the high earners wont bugger off, or practice avoidance)

a lot of hopeing that fims will be willing to pay the 26% corporation tax as opposed to buggering of somewhere else...

He would do well to consider, and tell us, how he intends to deal with the loopholes used by big business to evade and dodge their tax liabilities.

I think he is playing "pie in the sky, jam tomorrow" politics

of course , if its all been costed by Ms Abbot then we are in the clear.......arent we???
Ah how sweet! monkey boys very own personal servant crawls over here to defend the greedy.

Of course he fails to mention that the tories have doubled the debt, borrowed more than every Labour government in history, presided over a massive increase in child poverty, homeless service personnel and suicides amongst the disabled, he's obviously forgiven them for electoral fraud, signing off on a Swiss bank HSBC tax evasion deal, a 35% pay rise and a £70BN tax give away for the rich. Forgotten the chaos in the NHS, social care, rail fiasco and the £27BN to private overseas landlords.

TC, is sadly nothing more than a fascist, a racist Tory party stooge, a corrupt liar, who even lied about his pension to protect his masters.

Always willing to do monkey boys bidding, what a vile lying shitcunt and coward he is, still at least we now know under who's orders he bans left of centre posters.

If the nation were at war we would be forced to intern him for our safety due to his treachery!
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 5:06 pm

Calm down Scrat, I realise you two have history, history which I thoroughly disaproved of, but in all fairness the nationalisation etc is something Vic has been espousing for as long as I have known him, and that is some time.
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Post by Scrat. on Tue May 16, 2017 5:09 pm

Sassy wrote:Calm down Scrat, I realise you two have history, history which I thoroughly disaproved of, but in all fairness the nationalisation etc is something Vic has been espousing for as long as I have known him, and that is some time.
TC is a lying fascistcunt, he has form for being a lying fascistcunt and he will be treated as a lying fascistcunt, until he holds a civil tongue in his head and apologises for being a lying fascistcunt!
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 5:11 pm

What was that about a civil tongue?

Anyway, manifesto can be read here:

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/-/Images/manifesto-2017/Labour%20Manifesto%202017.pdf
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 5:25 pm

You do like making fake news don't you?  The Channel 5 journalist was booed by ordinary Labour members and Corbyn stopped in straight away and said 'show respect'.

You remind me of a turkey that votes for Christmas Phil, all those policies will help you and yours, but you would rather snipe and try and undermine. It's sad really.
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 6:26 pm

More fake news, just have a look at the videos I have posted of the rapturous welcome he has received everywhere he has gone. And didn't you see the report of the large percentage of people who approved the ideas? Do you think those ideas would even have been put forward without JC? Not a hope in hell. Latest polls give us a bigger percentage than Ed got as well.
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Post by victorismyhero on Tue May 16, 2017 6:30 pm

Scrat. wrote:
Sassy wrote:Calm down Scrat, I realise you two have history, history which I thoroughly disaproved of, but in all fairness the nationalisation etc is something Vic has been espousing for as long as I have known him, and that is some time.
TC is a lying fascistcunt, he has form for being a lying fascistcunt and he will be treated as a lying fascistcunt, until he holds a civil tongue in his head and apologises for being a lying fascistcunt!

go to hell you lying stalinist pig, and while you are at it shove your head up your arse. That way at least both ends will be talking the same shite. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 6:39 pm

Phil, that's your prejudice speaking, not facts. lol
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 6:44 pm

Here's the doorstep in Leaminton, Tory heartland





Leeds



Yep, he's a real problem ok, the problem of crowd control and over enthusiasm.
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 6:46 pm

BTW, we don't do bussing of supporters, there are too many wherever he goes to worry about bussing people. Unlike May who has the same ones around her all the time.
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Post by victorismyhero on Tue May 16, 2017 6:56 pm

interestingly enough, I was about to ask, what about the unspoken agenda, the things that he has NOT mentioned?
Now the LAST labour (if you can call it that) govt, had very little to do, indeed it spent a fair bit of its time finding ways to continue maggies policies and make them "acceptable" and as a result spent MOST of its otherwise pointless existence "fiddling" with things, making changes firstly to look as if it was doing something and secondly bowing down to the loudest and latest shouting minority mob. Are we going to see a break from this sort of rule by the loudest minority, and get back to doing what the labour govts I can remember did....and run the country properly, albeit I would rather they didnt fall over and bow down to the unions quite so easily nowadays...though they would perhaps do well to listen to the more sensible unions and consider carefully what advice they may be able to offer.

He should also consider legalising and taxing cannabis, regulating its available strength....This alone would bring in millions upon millions. Moreover whilst I would agree there is a potential risk of a few going on to abuse harder drugs, given that drug addiction is now well considered a "personality flaw" he should not concern himself about those few that go on to fry their brains on something harder...its likely that they would do so in any case....the mere availability of cannabis legally would be unlikely to induce someone to go on a drug soaked orgy of self destruction, logically having a legal, strength regulated product would be, if anything LESS likely to do so.



oh and next time you happen to talk to the old grey fellow....point out to him that the citizens wage (or whatever you want to call it) could be easily paid for by a technology tax, levied on tech in general (eg 1p per text/1p per phone call, a tax on computer games per hour played, (though HOW you would collect that beats me ATM) ) and specifically on firms that use tech to supplant workers and use robots etc)
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 7:00 pm

They'll be too busy doing what they said they are going to do to have time to 'fiddle'. I certainly agree about the cannabis and the citizens wage. BTW, the levels of taxation will be lower than under Thatcher, with no tax rises for 95% of the population (ony 5% get over £80,000) and no rise in NA, which May won't promise. (She has also said there will be tax rises, but you can bet your life they won't be for the rich).
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Post by victorismyhero on Tue May 16, 2017 7:05 pm

do you happen to know the REAL cost of providing benefits INCLUDING the cost of the Infrastructure and staff to facilitate it....or can you get that info, see i reckon that cost of providing the benefits, costs as much as the benefits themselves, if not more
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Post by victorismyhero on Tue May 16, 2017 7:26 pm

Also, Sassy, please not this, and reply to that effect,

just who attacked who, without provocation, (and indeed has spent a while on here attempting "baiting") and just who is justifiably retaliating, so that in a few weeks time when he comes whingeing that I attacked HIM first you will have noted and seen where it all actually started.....

I was quite happy to "let sleeping dogs lie" and let what has happened elsewhere to float by as "water under the bridge", But it seems that cerrtain folk just love to continue unnecessary conflict whenever they get a chance.....
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Post by Sassy on Tue May 16, 2017 7:36 pm

victorismyhero wrote:Also, Sassy, please not this, and reply to that effect,

just who attacked who, without provocation, (and indeed has spent a while on here attempting "baiting") and just who is justifiably retaliating, so that in a few weeks time when he comes whingeing that I attacked HIM first you will have noted and seen where it all actually started.....

I was quite happy to "let sleeping dogs lie" and let what has happened elsewhere to float by as "water under the bridge", But it seems that cerrtain folk just love to continue unnecessary conflict whenever they get a chance.....

I just wish that people would stop baiting one another and treat this place as a fresh start. I honestly don't see the point of it all. At the moment because something has happened in Irn's life, I'm running this by myself, although there is someone I can turn to if I need to. So I am making a plea, one of you be the bigger person. I value both of you and want to make a success of this place, so perhaps you could both bear this in mind.

Scrat, I'd be very appreciative if, bearing in mind what I have said about Irn, you could help me make a success of this for Irn to come back to, and to do that you need to let it go with Vic, the same as you let it go with me. The only way I can help Irn at the moment is to keep this going, a very little thing but it means a lot to me.
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