Theresa May’s secret plans to replace NHS England with private US healthcare system Kaiser Permanente

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Theresa May’s secret plans to replace NHS England with private US healthcare system Kaiser Permanente

Post by Sassy on Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:14 pm

Kaiser Permanente is a private healthcare organisation based in California.

But unlike many other private healthcare companies in the US, Kaiser provides a complete model of integrated pre-paid insurance along with healthcare which is supposedly provided free at the point of need.

This is a system much like our own NHS but with three major differences – Kaiser’s healthcare provision is much more expensive than the NHS, the healthcare provision side is run for profit and unlike the NHS its cover isn’t comprehensive – it only covers those people who are in work.

Despite that, Secretary of State for Health Jeremy Hunt seems to love Kaiser. He and other ministers have personally visited the company at its California headquarters – several times in fact:





And Kaiser’s own website lists other recent visitors from the UK, including many NHS hospitals and NHS trusts as well as HM Treasury and the Ministry of Health itself (click to enlarge):



We have already seen that US firms are looking to capitalise as the NHS becomes increasingly privatised, including Kaiser Permanente Foundation‘s senior vice president Hal Wolf who has openly called for the NHS to become “more like Kaiser Permanente“.

Alarmingly, Theresa May has specifically refused to guarantee she will not open up the NHS to US firms in a post-Brexit trade deal across the Atlantic.

Understanding the plans to replace the NHS with the Kaiser Permanente system explains why there has been a recent speeding up of the ongoing marketisation and privatisation of the NHS.

It also explains why the Tories were so desperate to push through their disastrous NHS reforms in the first place. A central plank of the NHS reforms was the formation of Clinical Commissioning Groups – which were openly based on Kaiser’s Permanente Medical Groups and which also happen to be a central plank of Kaiser’s healthcare system.

And understanding the plans to replace the NHS across England with the Kaiser Permanente system goes a long way to explaining why Theresa May has done nothing to resolve the worsening NHS crisis, which she is gambling will only make the public more keen to see changes to a system that is being deliberately broken.

So if the Tories win in June – say goodbye to the NHS in England and hello to Kaiser Permanente …

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/theresa-mays-secret-plans-to-replace-nhs-england-with-private-us-healthcare-system-kaiser-permanente/



And there will be dipsticks out there who will vote Tory, and when they are told they can't have treatment because it's too expensive will say 'but we didn't think that would happen'.
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Re: Theresa May’s secret plans to replace NHS England with private US healthcare system Kaiser Permanente

Post by Shady2 on Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:43 am

Sassy wrote:Kaiser Permanente is a private healthcare organisation based in California.

But unlike many other private healthcare companies in the US, Kaiser provides a complete model of integrated pre-paid insurance along with healthcare which is supposedly provided free at the point of need.

This is a system much like our own NHS but with three major differences – Kaiser’s healthcare provision is much more expensive than the NHS, the healthcare provision side is run for profit and unlike the NHS its cover isn’t comprehensive – it only covers those people who are in work.

Despite that, Secretary of State for Health Jeremy Hunt seems to love Kaiser. He and other ministers have personally visited the company at its California headquarters – several times in fact:

 



And Kaiser’s own website lists other recent visitors from the UK, including many NHS hospitals and NHS trusts as well as HM Treasury and the Ministry of Health itself (click to enlarge):

 

We have already seen that US firms are looking to capitalise as the NHS becomes increasingly privatised, including Kaiser Permanente Foundation‘s senior vice president Hal Wolf who has openly called for the NHS to become “more like Kaiser Permanente“.

Alarmingly, Theresa May has specifically refused to guarantee she will not open up the NHS to US firms in a post-Brexit trade deal across the Atlantic.

Understanding the plans to replace the NHS with the Kaiser Permanente system explains why there has been a recent speeding up of the ongoing marketisation and privatisation of the NHS.

It also explains why the Tories were so desperate to push through their disastrous NHS reforms in the first place. A central plank of the NHS reforms was the formation of Clinical Commissioning Groups – which were openly based on Kaiser’s Permanente Medical Groups and which also happen to be a central plank of Kaiser’s healthcare system.

And understanding the plans to replace the NHS across England with the Kaiser Permanente system goes a long way to explaining why Theresa May has done nothing to resolve the worsening NHS crisis, which she is gambling will only make the public more keen to see changes to a system that is being deliberately broken.

So if the Tories win in June – say goodbye to the NHS in England and hello to Kaiser Permanente …

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/theresa-mays-secret-plans-to-replace-nhs-england-with-private-us-healthcare-system-kaiser-permanente/



And there will be dipsticks out there who will vote Tory, and when they are told they can't have treatment because it's too expensive will say 'but we didn't think that would happen'.  

Good morning Sassy.

I've read your posts & find them really funny but this one was the funniest & this comment topped them all:So if the Tories win in June – say goodbye to the NHS in England and hello to Kaiser Permanente …

...Grow up you silly cow,

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!
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Post by Sassy on Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:09 am

I realise you are jealous because we find out things you don't know about and you can't handle it any other way.   However, you and yours need the health service as much as anyone else and it has saved the life of people I love and myself, on numerous occasions, so I value it and 99% of the country also value it greatly.   Now, even if up and running at 100% it will never be able to achieve the impossible and repair the steroid damage and give you a brain back again, but I'm sure in the future when we have got rid of the people who are destroying it, it will try and help you.

Meanwhile, this is your one and only warning.   If you want to come on here just to be disruptive you will find yourself shown the door.   If you want to come on and talk properly, like a real human being, you'll carry on being welcome.  

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Post by Shady2 on Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:09 pm

Sassy wrote:I realise you are jealous because we find out things you don't know about and you can't handle it any other way.   However, you and yours need the health service as much as anyone else and it has saved the life of people I love and myself, on numerous occasions, so I value it and 99% of the country also value it greatly.   Now, even if up and running at 100% it will never be able to achieve the impossible and repair the steroid damage and give you a brain back again, but I'm sure in the future when we have got rid of the people who are destroying it, it will try and help you.

Meanwhile, this is your one and only warning.   If you want to come on here just to be disruptive you will find yourself shown the door.   If you want to come on and talk properly, like a real human being, you'll carry on being welcome.  

You want to be a clown, join the circus.

Ahh now we come to it.The warnings didn't take long did they Sass?

You speak about talking properly like a real human being when you have posted a thread in which you virtually wish the death of elderly people.

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Post by Sassy on Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:55 pm

Never said they were going to. We intend to keep this place nice for people to come to and have a firm hand on the reins.
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Post by Sassy on Fri May 12, 2017 11:01 pm

People really need to be reminded of this over and over again. Without the NHS we would be in deep doodoo.
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