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Boss stunned that jobseekers won't work for £20 a day

Post by Irn Bru on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:23 pm

The Daily Mail comes out with a dog-whistle article about kids refusing work and as seen elsewhere the usual suspects duly fall into line and come running along to add to the condemnation.

Looking deeper into this it turns out that these 'jobs' are nothing like what he was saying they were.

These seven salespeople were recuited via the Government's Job Centre website and Mr Cooper is pictured brandishing a print-out of the job offer specifying their hours (9.30am to 4.30pm), their wage (£6.08 per hour) and the fact it is a permanent position.

But it turns out it's not that simple. We asked Carl to explain how it works.

The new sales staff are required to start work in a "self-employed" capacity and will earn a basic £100 a week - or £20 a day - as long as they hit call targets.

With a £20 commission on every sale - a "sale" being when they sign up a car dealership as a client of Car Smart - Carl reckons they should be able to earn up to £200 in the first week.

The basic salary works out at £2.85 per hour - perfectly legal for the self-employed. Even those hitting Carl's target of five sales in the first week would only earn £5.71 per hour - 38p per hour less than the minimum wage.

Carl predicts that successful applicants could hit £250 - and the minimum wage - in their second week but he accepts that many people will give up before then.

"We do experience a high volume in turnover of staff but that's what the industry experiences," he explained to me.

The "best" of the bunch will be offered full employment from week three, earning £6.08 per hour plus commission, which Carl expects will be increased to around £35 per sale.

Why would Car Smart want permanent staff when it can have a revolving door of self-employed people on probation on barely half the money?

Carl insisted firm genuinely wants employees and plans to hire between 50-100 for an ambitious expansion plan.

He defended the two-week trial period: "That's there to provide them with petrol money, lunch money and the opportunity to trial the position."


No wonder the dad told one of the kids to tell him to 'do one' because exploiting kids in this way is just typical of the working environment that this government wants to create.

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2012/04/boss-stunned-that-jobseekers-w.html



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Re: Boss stunned that jobseekers won't work for £20 a day

Post by gelico on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:38 pm

He defended the two-week trial period: "That's there to provide them with petrol money, lunch money and the opportunity to trial the position."

No wonder the dad told one of the kids to tell him to 'do one' because exploiting kids in this way is just typical of the working environment that this government wants to create.

i'm not against that in principle but this surely has to be on top of JSA until such time as they are taken on permanently - otherwise, (unless they can hit the sales target, which in a recession is somewhat challenging even for the best of them) they are working for absolutely nothing and if they can sit on their arses for a week and get 50 quid or whatever cash in their pocket they wont work.

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Post by Irn Bru on Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:59 pm

gelico wrote:He defended the two-week trial period: "That's there to provide them with petrol money, lunch money and the opportunity to trial the position."

No wonder the dad told one of the kids to tell him to 'do one' because exploiting kids in this way is just typical of the working environment that this government wants to create.

i'm not against that in principle but this surely has to be on top of JSA until such time as they are taken on permanently - otherwise, (unless they can hit the sales target, which in a recession is somewhat challenging even for the best of them) they are working for absolutely nothing and if they can sit on their arses for a week and get 50 quid or whatever cash in their pocket they wont work.

Hi Geli,

No, I don't believe it is on top of JSA.

This company carsmart is owned by Stefan William Black and if you look at his record he starts up companies and shuts them down again quite regularly. He registered this latest business in January this year and already they say that they have a large turnover of staff (self-employed).
Hardly the type of employer to offer a career path to kids starting out in their working life - more like a revolving door after a couple of weeks - if they last that long.
His job advert and payscales were deceiptfull and the kids owe him no apology for seeing through it by not turning up.

http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/907667407


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