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Hate Preacher Abu Quatada gets away again.....

Post by Irn Bru on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:05 pm

....and it looks like we'll be stuck with him a a few months more - and all because of the EU and the ECHR.

Why did the Tories ever sign us up to all this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130907/Abu-Qatada-case-Hate-preacher-lodges-appeal-deportation.html


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Post by Drinky on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:58 am

Irn Bru wrote:....and it looks like we'll be stuck with him a a few months more - and all because of the EU and the ECHR.

Why did the Tories ever sign us up to all this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130907/Abu-Qatada-case-Hate-preacher-lodges-appeal-deportation.html


You disingenuous btard Irn Bru. Labour more specifically Blair couldn't wait to sign us up in 97!!! The Lioberals and Labour are fully on board with this madness at least the majority of Tories aren't. You really have the ability to delude yourself just like Scrat.

The bloody cheek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not sure what Millibands view is on this he is waiting foir his instructions from UNITE

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Post by In A Flap on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:19 pm

thankfully the tories have done more to try and remove him in 2 years than labour did in 8

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Post by Irn Bru on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:33 pm

Drinky wrote:

You disingenuous btard Irn Bru. Labour more specifically Blair couldn't wait to sign us up in 97!!! The Lioberals and Labour are fully on board with this madness at least the majority of Tories aren't. You really have the ability to delude yourself just like Scrat.

The bloody cheek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not sure what Millibands view is on this he is waiting foir his instructions from UNITE

Well, my parents were married to each other long before I was born so your description of me is quite wrong.

The fact remains that it was the Tories that signed us up to all this and that's a fact. Read Churchill's Legacy and research on the Single European Act and The Maastrich Treaty and you'll know more.

And maybe you didn't notice that I have been quite supportive in Thereas May's efforts to get this man out and believe she has been let down badly by her advisors. I said she has worked hard and I have been crtical of Labour in their views on her efforts.

As for Scrat! Well he's doing a great job in mixing it with the little groups that huddle together for support He's going in where it hurts and holding himself together under fire and holding his own, no problem. He has my respect.




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Post by Irn Bru on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:35 pm

In A Flap wrote:thankfully the tories have done more to try and remove him in 2 years than labour did in 8

See post above.


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Post by Drinky on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:54 pm

I take it you don't accept that Blair signed up to the convention immediately he gained office against the advice of the Home Office. It has been well covered. His wife did very well out of it thankyou very much. Indeed the Blairs make tmost Tories look very poor indeed. An inconvenient fact you seek to ignore often.

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Post by Irn Bru on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:09 pm

Drinky wrote:I take it you don't accept that Blair signed up to the convention immediately he gained office against the advice of the Home Office. It has been well covered. His wife did very well out of it thankyou very much. Indeed the Blairs make tmost Tories look very poor indeed. An inconvenient fact you seek to ignore often.

What convention did he sign up to?

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Post by Irn Bru on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:24 pm

Irn Bru wrote:

What convention did he sign up to?

Struggling?

Laughing

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Post by Drinky on Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:14 am

Irn Bru wrote:

Struggling?

Laughing


No you clearly are you seem incapable of taking on board the sins of your heroes.

Q & A Human rights debate

What is the Human Rights Act?

The Human Rights Act (1998) came into force in the UK in 2000 and is viewed as a flagship piece of Labour legislation. The act incorporates into UK law the1950 European Convention on Human Rights, which makes a number of inalienable civil and political rights enforceable by the courts in England and Wales.

What does the convention establish?

The convention is divided into a series of 'articles'. Articles 2-14 establish the rights protected by the convention, such as the right to life, freedom from torture, inhuman and degrading treatment, the right to liberty and to a fair trial. Over the years a number of protocols agreed by the Council of Europe have been added to the convention. Some of the protocols deal with procedural issues, but some guarantee rights in addition to those included in the Convention. The UK has signed up to just two of the additional protocols.

Who interprets the convention?

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) is the international court set up to interpret and apply the Convention. Based in Strasbourg, it is made up of judges nominated by each of the member countries of the Council of Europe. Over the years there have been many cases in which the ECHR has found the UK in breach of the Convention. The fact it took so long for a British citizen to bring a case before the court was a major factor in convincing the government to incorporate the convention into UK law after Labour came to power in 1997.

Why is the Human Rights Act in the news now?

In the last week there has been widespread public disquiet at the way the act is being interpreted. Last week a judge ruled that nine Afghan asylum seekers who hijacked an aircraft to fly to Britain should not be returned to their country because to do so would be to risk subjecting them to 'inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment' and therefore a breach of their human rights. The Prime Minister described the verdict as 'an abuse of common sense'. The decision - like the claim that convicted rapist Anthony Rice, who went on to kill Naomi Bryant after release, was freed because to hold him any longer risked breaching his human rights - caused public outrage. To pillory the act, however, misses the point.

Really Irn Bru you remind of of the USSR which began to believe it's own propaganda. When you march is it Left, Left, Left Left Left. Very Happy

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Post by Irn Bru on Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:44 pm

Drinky wrote:


No you clearly are you seem incapable of taking on board the sins of your heroes.

Q & A Human rights debate

What is the Human Rights Act?

The Human Rights Act (1998) came into force in the UK in 2000 and is viewed as a flagship piece of Labour legislation. The act incorporates into UK law the1950 European Convention on Human Rights, which makes a number of inalienable civil and political rights enforceable by the courts in England and Wales.

What does the convention establish?

The convention is divided into a series of 'articles'. Articles 2-14 establish the rights protected by the convention, such as the right to life, freedom from torture, inhuman and degrading treatment, the right to liberty and to a fair trial. Over the years a number of protocols agreed by the Council of Europe have been added to the convention. Some of the protocols deal with procedural issues, but some guarantee rights in addition to those included in the Convention. The UK has signed up to just two of the additional protocols.

Who interprets the convention?

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) is the international court set up to interpret and apply the Convention. Based in Strasbourg, it is made up of judges nominated by each of the member countries of the Council of Europe. Over the years there have been many cases in which the ECHR has found the UK in breach of the Convention. The fact it took so long for a British citizen to bring a case before the court was a major factor in convincing the government to incorporate the convention into UK law after Labour came to power in 1997.

Why is the Human Rights Act in the news now?

In the last week there has been widespread public disquiet at the way the act is being interpreted. Last week a judge ruled that nine Afghan asylum seekers who hijacked an aircraft to fly to Britain should not be returned to their country because to do so would be to risk subjecting them to 'inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment' and therefore a breach of their human rights. The Prime Minister described the verdict as 'an abuse of common sense'. The decision - like the claim that convicted rapist Anthony Rice, who went on to kill Naomi Bryant after release, was freed because to hold him any longer risked breaching his human rights - caused public outrage. To pillory the act, however, misses the point.

Really Irn Bru you remind of of the USSR which began to believe it's own propaganda. When you march is it Left, Left, Left Left Left. Very Happy

The act incorporates into UK law the1950 European Convention on Human Rights,

That's what the Tories signed - Churchills's Legacy The Conservative Case for the Human Rights Act.

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/policy/reports/churchill-s-legacy-the-conservative-case-for-the-hra-october-2009.pdf

BTW Got a link to what you posted?

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