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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm

In A Flap wrote:

I think you must be once again confusing me with someone else, where did I say ken livingstone supported terrorism. I said he has offered platforms to terrorists.
and the hate preacher he has embraced is Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi the man who says gays should be killed and israel bombed.


Now even if you do not live or vote in london it does not stop you having a view surely

I fully support and endorse Boris on his Bid for re-election to london Mayor.

DO you support the Labour candidate or perhaps you cannot bring yourself to do that, If not who would you suggest is the best man for the job?
Or perhaps you truly believe if you are not directly involved you should not hold a viewpoint?


Oh, I can assuure you I am not confusing you with someone else because you have this unique style of posting in that you twist around someone's words to try and form their opinions for them. It's a weak form of debate and one that you excel in.
And if you read back you will find that I didn't say that you did say that Ken Livingstone supported terrorism. It was a question (?) I put to you prompted by your 'statement'

"so you don't support Ken. that's good to hear as he would be a disastrous mayor for london."


As far as Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi is concerned, did he actually say that gays should be killed and Israel should be bombed and did Livingstone condone his views? - that's a question.

And as far as homophobia and views on gays is concerned, I think you should have a look at yourself and what you allow to be posted on your forum supposedly in the name of 'free speech' What I have read is the hounding of a gay member of your forum who I saw being called phylis. syphilis, he/she, amongst other things and also his partner being vilified for having aids and him being a health hazard. I also saw the term 'poofter' being used and all that is just from the occasional look in so please spare us your hypocritical views on what is and isn't an acceptable platform for debate on that subject.

As far as London is concerned, I have not read what the candidates policies are or details of what they are proposing in terms of taking London forward during the next term in office. I have also not watched the televised debates so even you will understand that not having done so then it isn't really possible for me to say who is offering Londoners the best way forward. Is that simple enough for you?
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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 pm

TTS wrote:cosy up to murderers and morally flexible ?

Thatcher's 1981 Christmas card list included Gaddafi and Saddam i am sure you would agree is as much cosying up to murderers and morally flexible as any of them

so lets not go the false indignation route your lot are just as guilty of supporting or at the very least condoning terrorism when it suits
Christmas cards ffs
the Card featuring Thatcher at Chequers was sent to both Libyan and Iraqi dictators and i bet that general pino...as well

Thatcher's 1981 Christmas card list included Gaddafi and Saddam i am sure you would agree is as much cosying up to murderers and morally flexible as any of them

Oh really!!!!

lol!
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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Drinky wrote:Indeed he has he and Galloway have been apologist for the extremist Muslims and Cathilics.

There are a number of what seem to be exclusively left wing politicians who cosy up to these groups for votes.

John Majors engagement with the IRA was to get the peace process underway he never endorsed or gave succour to the murderers. You see you open this thread to castigate a RW murderer but when I introduce some balance and point out the left cosy up to murderers you go on the defensive.

You prove my point most conclusively. As Tts puts it you see these as freedom fighters if they vote for your lot. I don't want any lunatics involved with any party I support you lefties are shall we say more morally flexible.

Did Ken Livingstone endorse the murderers?

You never mentioned the Unionists?
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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:38 pm

Irn Bru wrote:

Thatcher's 1981 Christmas card list included Gaddafi and Saddam i am sure you would agree is as much cosying up to murderers and morally flexible as any of them

Oh really!!!!

lol!
lets not forget David Cameron's friend Tory MP Aidan Burley who says he's the "candidate for Berlin East" and high-fives David Cameron while his brother and friends dress in SS uniforms and chant **** slogans (disrespecting all British people who died fighting Fascism during WW2, disrespecting all British civilians murdered by Nazis during the Blitz, and disrespecting all Anti-Fascists and all victims of Fascism world-wide).


when it comes to politics people in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks


ps the word filter is sh:te
Ra,cist was the word **** used in context and not used as abuse


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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:28 pm

I accept that PMs of all colours have to deal with leaders of other countries with very dubiousvrecords.

That isn't the same as you well know as cosying up to mad mullahs. You would make a fine lw politician irn bru you are already defending ad mullahs.

Left, left, left left left. You favourite march.

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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:08 pm

Drinky wrote:I accept that PMs of all colours have to deal with leaders of other countries with very dubiousvrecords.

That isn't the same as you well know as cosying up to mad mullahs. You would make a fine lw politician irn bru you are already defending ad mullahs.

Left, left, left left left. You favourite march.

You are beginning to display symtoms similar to another poster on here in that you form other people's opinions for them.

Like I said, it's a weak form of debate but if you can pull up a post from me defending mad mullahs then I challenge you to do so now.

Go on.......
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:38 pm

Ffs I didn't say you have I said the people you regularly support I.e. left wing politicians do.

I was clear about that you are simply trying to obfuscate the situation. Such are the dishonest ways of the left. The force is strong in you Gordon would be so proud.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:39 pm

Drinky wrote:I accept that PMs of all colours have to deal with leaders of other countries with very dubiousvrecords.

That isn't the same as you well know as cosying up to mad mullahs. You would make a fine lw politician irn bru you are already defending ad mullahs.

Left, left, left left left. You favourite march.
yet when tony blair dealt with gaddafy duck he was castigated for it by the RW (not necessarily you ) calls of traitor and such

it seems to me after being around forums for some time now that when a labor minister/pm does some thing that`s perceived as bad by the rw no amount of explanation or logical reasoning will suffice
yet when a tory minister/pm does something its all diferant and ok some how ........funny that

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:43 pm

Good afternoon Folks.

MPs from all parties are lying bastards & are not to be trusted.They're only interested in promotion of their career prospects & have little regard for the general public.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:03 pm

I speak largely in generalities regarding left and rw politicians. The Conservatives lost alot if popular people to IRA bombers e.g. Airey Neave.

Labour was always more shall we say in tune with the republicans.

There is alot of mstrust of people generally in the electorate about politicians and their cosying up to the Muslim groups. This largely is a phenonenim f Labour and the left that I can say hand on heart. Such was the intensity and duplicity of Labour ut fed the rans of the BNP a party I have no truck with.

The left have dominated te agenda including the Tory left. I would love a proper RW Tory party and Labour with an ultra left agenda. Let the people then have a clear choice instead of no choice.

The current parties or more correctly the keaderships are all various shades of liberal left as far as I a concerned. However I know Labour still are the champions of lying

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:08 pm

Drinky wrote:I speak largely in generalities regarding left and rw politicians. The Conservatives lost alot if popular people to IRA bombers e.g. Airey Neave.

Labour was always more shall we say in tune with the republicans.

There is alot of mstrust of people generally in the electorate about politicians and their cosying up to the Muslim groups. This largely is a phenonenim f Labour and the left that I can say hand on heart. Such was the intensity and duplicity of Labour ut fed the rans of the BNP a party I have no truck with.

The left have dominated te agenda including the Tory left. I would love a proper RW Tory party and Labour with an ultra left agenda. Let the people then have a clear choice instead of no choice.

The current parties or more correctly the keaderships are all various shades of liberal left as far as I a concerned. However I know Labour still are the champions of lying

That's right Drinky & the 3 main parties have molded themselves into a virtually same beast,which has become no use to man or beast.

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:14 pm

Irn Bru wrote:

You are beginning to display symtoms similar to another poster on here in that you form other people's opinions for them.

Like I said, it's a weak form of debate but if you can pull up a post from me defending mad mullahs then I challenge you to do so now.

Go on.......

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:15 pm

Drinky wrote:Ffs I didn't say you have I said the people you regularly support I.e. left wing politicians do.

I was clear about that you are simply trying to obfuscate the situation. Such are the dishonest ways of the left. The force is strong in you Gordon would be so proud.

You did...

You would make a fine lw politician irn bru you are already defending ad mullahs.

Have another go.....
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Forgive me for typos. You defend the politicians who defend the terrorist so maybe you are guilty by association.

I don't believe you are a bad person irn bru but I have always wondered why you support those who have deceived us. I have fallen out with Cameron because he is a lefty pretending to be a Tory. I don't carry on deceiving myself and trying to defend him to you. You continue to defend Brown who is the lowest form of life after Brehvik and Osama bin laden.

You should be delighted with Cameron et al he is more of the same albeit not quite as profligate.

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:43 pm

Drinky wrote:Forgive me for typos. You defend the politicians who defend the terrorist so maybe you are guilty by association.

I don't believe you are a bad person irn bru but I have always wondered why you support those who have deceived us. I have fallen out with Cameron because he is a lefty pretending to be a Tory. I don't carry on deceiving myself and trying to defend him to you. You continue to defend Brown who is the lowest form of life after Brehvik and Osama bin laden.

You should be delighted with Cameron et al he is more of the same albeit not quite as profligate.

You keep pumping out this nonsense, Drinky, and I suppose if you keep saying it long enough you might just get someone to believe it. You see, I have never supported a politician that condoned or supported terrorism and I'm going to have to ask you once again to pull up a post where I have done that - your move.

And I don't defend Brown or any of the other clowns, what I do is challenge the lies, the mis-truths and the half truths that I see on here and elsewhere and you are one of those that actually do that.
That's the reality - try dealing with it without the need to try and smear another poster.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:49 pm

Then you do a good job of pretending you do.

In fairness IB you defend anything to do with GB I now realise it is a wind up.

Well done I really thought you really rated the man you truly made me believe it.


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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:06 pm

Drinky wrote:Then you do a good job of pretending you do.

In fairness IB you defend anything to do with GB I now realise it is a wind up.

Well done I really thought you really rated the man you truly made me believe it.


I'm not pretending on anything - I don't need to.

And the posts supporting politicians that support terrorism!!! got them?
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:22 pm

You support labour politicians who have been cosy with boh Ira and Islamic extremist. By association given the fervour you support these politicians you are bang to rights mate.

Then I shan't hold my breath you never admit to anything you spend your life splitting hairs and trying to send your adversaries if on wild goose chases.

You re a lefty wind up merchant IB as well you know.

Do you work for the public sector?

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Post by Irn Bru on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:39 pm

Drinky wrote:You support labour politicians who have been cosy with boh Ira and Islamic extremist. By association given the fervour you support these politicians you are bang to rights mate.

Then I shan't hold my breath you never admit to anything you spend your life splitting hairs and trying to send your adversaries if on wild goose chases.

You re a lefty wind up merchant IB as well you know.

Do you work for the public sector?

No, I don't work in the public sector but you did and you draw a public sector pension that you want to try to deny to today's public sector workers.

And you rent out out a second home to benefit claimants and live of that whilst condening the claimants and the system that you despise.

And you get jobs done on the side to avoid paying VAT on the work that is done.

You would think I was describing the person that you detest but I'm not, I'm describing YOU, because these are all things that you have said you have done on previous forums.

You are doing what several other posters do in that instead of challenging their arguments you attempt to smear them with allegations that are completely untrue and by doing that you reduce yourself to no better than than the wind-up merchant description that you are trying to lay on me.

I know it hurts to have to have to bear critisism of your beloved Tory party but they're just a bunch of chancers and by all accounts so are you.

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I've got work in the morning - in the private sector - so I'll leave you to flounder around trying to come up with some other smear.

Goodnight
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:59 pm

I don't any pension at the moment I am living of my savings. Wrong again

I have three properties one of which is rented out formerly to a benefit claimant and now to decent hard working folk. The claimant left me with a £4000 refurb bill. I shan't make that mistake again. Wrong again

I pay cash to friends to do jobs. hELLO why would I do otherwise. If someone does a job after working a full day then they deserve a little extra. I realise as you are a Gordon fan you want everyone to pay 80% tax on all earnings just like a Good old fashioned labour man.

Finally my socialist friend if you could read you would see I criticise the Tory party or more precisely the leadership more and more. Unlike you I do not defend the indefensible.

You and I have crossed swords so often and you always lick Gordon briwns boots just like scrat.



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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:20 am

Drinky wrote:I don't any pension at the moment I am living of my savings. Wrong again

I have three properties one of which is rented out formerly to a benefit claimant and now to decent hard working folk. The claimant left me with a £4000 refurb bill. I shan't make that mistake again. Wrong again

I pay cash to friends to do jobs. hELLO why would I do otherwise. If someone does a job after working a full day then they deserve a little extra. I realise as you are a Gordon fan you want everyone to pay 80% tax on all earnings just like a Good old fashioned labour man.

Finally my socialist friend if you could read you would see I criticise the Tory party or more precisely the leadership more and more. Unlike you I do not defend the indefensible.

You and I have crossed swords so often and you always lick Gordon briwns boots just like scrat.


so hear your saying benefit claimant are not decent people and a reason given is you where left with a £4000 bill
but all that proves is your crap at picking your tenants because following your logic and gross generalization all benefit claimants destroy property and that is certainly not the case

but do tell how they cost you 4 grand in refurbishment ?
and what kind of jobs do your friends do for you refurbishment by any chance ?
an example or to would be interesting

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Post by Irn Bru on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:17 pm

Drinky wrote:I don't any pension at the moment I am living of my savings. Wrong again

I have three properties one of which is rented out formerly to a benefit claimant and now to decent hard working folk. The claimant left me with a £4000 refurb bill. I shan't make that mistake again. Wrong again

I pay cash to friends to do jobs. hELLO why would I do otherwise. If someone does a job after working a full day then they deserve a little extra. I realise as you are a Gordon fan you want everyone to pay 80% tax on all earnings just like a Good old fashioned labour man.

Finally my socialist friend if you could read you would see I criticise the Tory party or more precisely the leadership more and more. Unlike you I do not defend the indefensible.

You and I have crossed swords so often and you always lick Gordon briwns boots just like scrat.



So you're not entitled to a public sector pension then?

And you did rent out your property to a benefit cliamant who's rent was paid to you by the taxpayer - a system you despise. I don't see anything that wrong in renting out property to people on benefit but it's just hypocritical for you to take taxpayers money in that way and at the same time shout the odds and condemn the claimants as shirkers, wasters and a drain on the economy.

The refurbishment cost you nowt because it was paid for by the taxpayer - you know, from the money you took in from the taxpayer over the period you rented out the property. And even then you contributed to tax evasion by having work done on the side to evade paying tax due. Jeez, Drinky, if your interpretaion of socialism was anywhere near true then you would qualify as one of the best examples around.

And you're just making things up again because as far as Gordon Brown is concerned, you need to show me a post where I have submitted a post that could in any way be considered as licking his boots.






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Post by Angry Andy on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:33 pm

Poor Drinky is having some trouble finding a party to support.
His beloved Tories have done what lw'ers predicted - destroyed the economy and are dismantling society.
Posh rich boys who are out of touch.
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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:17 pm

Irn Bru wrote:

So you're not entitled to a public sector pension then?

And you did rent out your property to a benefit cliamant who's rent was paid to you by the taxpayer - a system you despise. I don't see anything that wrong in renting out property to people on benefit but it's just hypocritical for you to take taxpayers money in that way and at the same time shout the odds and condemn the claimants as shirkers, wasters and a drain on the economy.

The refurbishment cost you nowt because it was paid for by the taxpayer - you know, from the money you took in from the taxpayer over the period you rented out the property. And even then you contributed to tax evasion by having work done on the side to evade paying tax due. Jeez, Drinky, if your interpretaion of socialism was anywhere near true then you would qualify as one of the best examples around.

And you're just making things up again because as far as Gordon Brown is concerned, you need to show me a post where I have submitted a post that could in any way be considered as licking his boots.






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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:20 pm

Drinky wrote:I don't any pension at the moment I am living of my savings. Wrong again

I have three properties one of which is rented out formerly to a benefit claimant and now to decent hard working folk. The claimant left me with a £4000 refurb bill. I shan't make that mistake again. Wrong again

I pay cash to friends to do jobs. hELLO why would I do otherwise. If someone does a job after working a full day then they deserve a little extra. I realise as you are a Gordon fan you want everyone to pay 80% tax on all earnings just like a Good old fashioned labour man.

Finally my socialist friend if you could read you would see I criticise the Tory party or more precisely the leadership more and more. Unlike you I do not defend the indefensible.

You and I have crossed swords so often and you always lick Gordon briwns boots just like scrat.


also destruction of property is a criminal offense ,one would surmise you took these tenants to court to recover your losses .... i would
You may also be eligible for compensation if your property has been maliciously damaged
you should also have have insurance to cover this posability
i understand most Landlords Buildings insurance policy includes Malicious Damage & Theft by tenants up to £5,000 as standard but not sure if all of them do

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