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US Marine faces dismissal

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:18 am

A US Marine is facing dismissal from the military for criticising President Obama on his Facebook page.

Sergeant Gary Stein imposed Mr Obama's face on mocked-up film posters, including one for the movie "Jackass".

Prosecutors say Sgt Stein repeatedly ignored warnings from superior officers, and that the postings are in breach of military regulations.

He argues that he has a constitutional right to freedom of speech.

A disciplinary board recommended that he be demoted, and given an "other-than-honourable" discharge.

A senior officer must now decide whether to accept that recommendation.

The board heard that Sgt Stein had said he would not follow orders from the president if it involved violating the rights of US citizens.

Sgt Stein says his opinions are his own and that he put a disclaimer on his Facebook page making that clear.

The US military has a long-standing policy of restricting the free speech of service members, including criticism of the president, who is commander-in-chief of America's armed forces.

Sgt Stein's supporters - who include two congressmen, and the American Civil Liberties Union - argue that the defence department's regulations are vague, and that commanders do not understand them.

Sergeant Stein has been in the Marine Corps for nine years, and is due to finish his service in four months.


I agree with him, but the armed forces are not a democracy. Believe what you like but keep it to yourself. Jump when you are told to, and ask permission to come down.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17635878


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Re: US Marine faces dismissal

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:12 pm

hagar wrote:A US Marine is facing dismissal from the military for criticising President Obama on his Facebook page.

Sergeant Gary Stein imposed Mr Obama's face on mocked-up film posters, including one for the movie "Jackass".

Prosecutors say Sgt Stein repeatedly ignored warnings from superior officers, and that the postings are in breach of military regulations.

He argues that he has a constitutional right to freedom of speech.

A disciplinary board recommended that he be demoted, and given an "other-than-honourable" discharge.

A senior officer must now decide whether to accept that recommendation.

The board heard that Sgt Stein had said he would not follow orders from the president if it involved violating the rights of US citizens.

Sgt Stein says his opinions are his own and that he put a disclaimer on his Facebook page making that clear.

The US military has a long-standing policy of restricting the free speech of service members, including criticism of the president, who is commander-in-chief of America's armed forces.

Sgt Stein's supporters - who include two congressmen, and the American Civil Liberties Union - argue that the defence department's regulations are vague, and that commanders do not understand them.

Sergeant Stein has been in the Marine Corps for nine years, and is due to finish his service in four months.


I agree with him, but the armed forces are not a democracy. Believe what you like but keep it to yourself. Jump when you are told to, and ask permission to come down.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17635878

Good afternoon Hagar.

This guy has got guts or he's stupid.Or maybe he just doesn't care if he is thrown out of the marines & is working his ticket.

To stick you head above the parapet like he has will make him a target while he remains in the marines.

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Re: US Marine faces dismissal

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:38 pm

Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Hagar.

This guy has got guts or he's stupid.Or maybe he just doesn't care if he is thrown out of the marines & is working his ticket.

To stick you head above the parapet like he has will make him a target while he remains in the marines.



Hi Shady, bloody idiot for id'ing himself. No

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:36 pm

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Hi Shady, bloody idiot for id'ing himself. No

I wonder if we are to take his apparent motives on face value or maybe he has another agenda.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:43 pm

Shady wrote:

I wonder if we are to take his apparent motives on face value or maybe he has another agenda.

It seems very strange that he could be that stupid. Suspect Not a good idea getting a Dishon.Discharge. Shocked

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:59 pm

hagar wrote:

It seems very strange that he could be that stupid. Suspect Not a good idea getting a Dishon.Discharge. Shocked

I'm wondering now if he regrets his actions,now that his story has gone global.Maybe at the time of posting on Facebook he'd had a few sherbets & was feeling like a wide boy.It could be now that he's shiiting his knicks.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:11 pm

Shady wrote:

I'm wondering now if he regrets his actions,now that his story has gone global.Maybe at the time of posting on Facebook he'd had a few sherbets & was feeling like a wide boy.It could be now that he's shiiting his knicks.

I'll just bet he is kicking himself. No

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