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Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:16 am


Kenneth Clarke's plans to overhaul the legal aid system took a battering last night as ministers suffered three defeats in the House of Lords.

Peers of all parties repeatedly rebelled over the Justice Secretary's moves to slash spending on legal aid by £350m.

Further defeats are expected tomorrow in the second day of the report stage of the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill.

Mr Clarke proposes withdrawing benefit from most cases of family breakdown, medical negligence, immigration, debt and welfare benefit.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/triple-defeat-for-legal-aid-reforms-7537881.html



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Re: Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:19 am


Ken Clarke suffered three defeats in the House of Lords on his plans to remove funding from some areas of legal aid.
The justice secretary’s proposals, which are set out in the legal aid, sentencing and punishment of offenders bill, are expected to save £350m from the Ministry of Justice budget by 2015. However, organisations such as the Law Society have criticised the plans, which dictate that civil cases such as family law, domestic violence, employment, immigration and clinical negligence should no longer be eligible for free representation.
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Peers added their voices to those opposing the measures on Monday, voting in three amendments. These stipulate that everyone should have “access to legal services that effectively meet their needs”, that there should still be aid provision for victims of domestic violence and that the director of legal aid casework should be free from ministerial interference.
Before the Lords debate Lady Scotland, the former attorney-general and a Labour peer, had warned that women and children could die as the result of changes to funding on domestic violence cases.
But speaking to the BBC, Mr Clarke rejected those claims. “We’re not taking legal aid from women and children, we’re taking legal aid from lawyers,” he said.
The justice secretary also hit back at the suggestion that the reforms would deny justice to those who were in greatest need. “It doesn’t close anybody’s access to justice, at all,” he said. “For those who don’t get legal aid, the courts are already too expensive, so they’re normally only accessible to the very rich or the very poor but access to justice will still be there.”

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Re: Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:39 am

Reform al;ways has its opposers. Many opposed the abolition of slavery I didn't think they were right either.

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Re: Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:28 pm

Drinky wrote:Reform al;ways has its opposers. Many opposed the abolition of slavery I didn't think they were right either.

You are equating slavery with holding trials in secret and not letting people have information, in the style of courts in countries that have no democracy? You want to go backwards?

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Re: Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:44 pm

Legal Aid was one of the most corrupt "pots of cash" that people had access to.

Although it began with lofty ambitions it was seriously abused and so these cuts are now going to affect the vulnerable, which is a shame. The real fault for this is the greedy corrupt Legal Aid lawyers who used these funds to make themselves millionaires at the tax-payers expense.

Alternative systems should be in place for domestic violence etc. The present system has just made some very rich indeed.

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Re: Triple defeat for legal aid reforms

Post by Guest on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:19 pm

Seren wrote:Legal Aid was one of the most corrupt "pots of cash" that people had access to.

Although it began with lofty ambitions it was seriously abused and so these cuts are now going to affect the vulnerable, which is a shame. The real fault for this is the greedy corrupt Legal Aid lawyers who used these funds to make themselves millionaires at the tax-payers expense.

Alternative systems should be in place for domestic violence etc. The present system has just made some very rich indeed.

I'm afraid legal aid was only a tiny part of the problem. Clarke wanted the right to hold courts in secret and have evidence that the accused was not allowed to see, I doubt anyone in their right mind would want that to happen, and it was not for terrorism.

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