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Student thrown off train by 'Big Man' You Tube hero 'tried to trip up conductor'

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:40 pm

Student thrown off train by 'Big Man' You Tube hero 'tried to trip up conductor'

It was the YouTube video which set off a worldwide debate, after a student was bundled off a train by another passenger following his foul-mouthed rant at a conductor.
Public opinion was split - some supporting 'hero' Alan Pollock for taking action to stop a troublemaker holding up a train, while others found his response heavy-handed and unnecessary.
But CCTV footage from the train has shown a new side to the story, which is missing from the clip which became an online sensation.
Tough love: Sam Main, a second-year surveying student at Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh, suffered some minor scratching to his face
Filmed earlier in the journey, it is understood to show student Sam Main trying to trip up the white-haired conductor as he goes about his work.
After a heated argument with the man, the youth is seen putting his leg out into the train aisle to block his way, with the next frame appearing to show the conductor forced to step over him to leave.
The Scotrail conductor - who was interviewed by his employer following the incident - is believed to have told rail sources that the student purposely tried to trip him.

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It is a revelation which is likely to cause even more controversy over the fact that Mr Pollock could now face an assault charge for hauling the teenager off the train.
Mr Main has still conspicuously failed to apologise for his behaviour on the 9.33pm Edinburgh to Perth train on December 9.
The building surveying student subjected the conductor and a young family in a neighbouring seat to a four-letter tirade as he refused to accept he did not have a valid rail ticket. He then held up dozens of other commuters by refusing to leave the train, despite being asked several times.
Alan Pollock has refused to speak about what's being called 'Big Man Gate'
It was after this that investment firm manager Mr Pollock stepped up to offer his help to the conductor, collaring the youth and bundling him off the train at Linlithgow.
The YouTube film of the incident has now been viewed by almost two million people and brought notoriety to everyone involved.
Mr Pollock, a 35-year-old father-of-three now known online as 'the big man’, has been unable to give his side of the story after being advised by his solicitor that it could cause difficulties with his employer, Edinburgh-based finance firm BlackRock.
The unnamed conductor too has stayed silent. He is on leave from work and is being investigated by Scotrail over his actions.
Is there a problem? After the conductor has been remonstrating with the teenager the 'Big Man' stands up and approaches the conductor

Time to move on, son: The burly passenger looks down on the teenager before pushing him to the train door

Off and away: The 'big man' hoists the youth up from his seat and throws him off the train
The only person to have spoken out is Mr Main, from Falkirk, Stirlingshire. He last week launched a litany of excuses for his behaviour, blaming his long day, diabetes and hungry state, as well as claiming he had been sold the wrong ticket for his return journey.
The 19-year-old, who made the assault complaint to the police, said: 'I don’t condone the way I spoke to the conductor, but still there’s no way that anybody possibly who has seen the video can condone the way Alan Pollock chose to handle the situation.'
Ian Hems, 27, the IT teacher who filmed the events on the train journey on his mobile phone, has had to go ex-directory because he has received so much attention.
He said: 'I've had to phone BT and go ex-directory because my phone has gone red-hot from about five in the morning with prank calls.
And out you go: The passenger pushes the teenager on to the platform. Each time he tries to get back in, he pushes him back out again
'I was only there and filmed it – big deal. What’s the problem? I'm not the star of this show. I don’t get why people are getting at me on this one.'
Mr Hems – who has also been interviewed by officers from British Transport Police – added: 'I started filming purely because the train conductor had gone backwards and had stopped the train after checking everyone's tickets.
'There was a bit of abuse going on. I thought the transport police were about to come and throw the student off the train.
“I was thinking it was going to be funny but I didn’t expect the big man to step up like that. It has caused a bit of a stir but I’m firmly on the big man's side because he did what everyone wanted to be done.'
Mr Pollock, from Wishaw, Lanarkshire, is still being investigated over the potential assault charge but British Transport Police have received no complaints about Mr Main.
A spokeswoman for Heriot Watt University, which the student attends, said: 'It would appear that the relevant authorities have been in touch with Sam Main regarding the recent train incident.
'Since then I believe that Mr Main has sat two exams, and our Student Welfare department was indeed in touch with him to provide any support he might need with that.'
A ScotRail spokesman said: 'Our inquiries into the circumstances surrounding the incident continue.
'As British Transport Police has received and is investigating a complaint of assault, it would be inappropriate to comment further.'
Mr Main refused to comment.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076718/Sam-Main-thrown-train-Big-Man-You-Tube-hero-tried-trip-conductor.html#ixzz1h75fi3zu

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Post by victorismyhero on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:46 pm

good on "the big man" about time snotty little scroats learned that there are "consequences" for stupidity and ignorance...
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:29 pm

victorismyhero wrote:good on "the big man" about time snotty little scroats learned that there are "consequences" for stupidity and ignorance...

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:31 pm

I agree Victor!

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:43 pm

The shame of it is that although Big Man's intention was to help the Conductor, he was heavy handed in getting that guy off the train. The fare dodger reported the assault and with cuts and bruises to prove it, the Police had no option but to charge the man.


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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:40 pm

Angel wrote:The shame of it is that although Big Man's intention was to help the Conductor, he was heavy handed in getting that guy off the train. The fare dodger reported the assault and with cuts and bruises to prove it, the Police had no option but to charge the man.


.......but will the fare-dodger be charged for his offence? I don't know how he had the cheek to report it to be honest No

Seren/Fred-I have merged your threads as they both cover the same subject. Hope ok Very Happy x

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:29 pm

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.......but will the fare-dodger be charged for his offence? I don't know how he had the cheek to report it to be honest No

Seren/Fred-I have merged your threads as they both cover the same subject. Hope ok Very Happy x


Evening FTLovely... Apparently, it's being investigated and I'm sure that if he can't prove he had a valid ticket, he'll be charged accordingly. Wink

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:37 pm

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Evening FTLovely... Apparently, it's being investigated and I'm sure that if he can't prove he had a valid ticket, he'll be charged accordingly. Wink

I love your optimism Beautiful Angel I love you lol! x

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