Monkey In A Suit, Wins Barnsley By Election

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Monkey In A Suit, Wins Barnsley By Election

Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:55 am

You do have to wonder about the mental state of the Electorate, as despite the By Election being caused by the jailing of the Liebour Candidate, for fraud, the Electorate then vote in the next "Monkey in a suit" with a larger share of the vote! No

Also a disappointing result for the BNP, as despite coming fourth and retaining their deposit, there share of the vote went down by 3.5%, despite the record vote for UKIP, putting them in 2nd place! affraid

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Labour-Win-Barnsley-Central-By-Election-Liberal-Democrats-Finish-In-Sixth-Place/Article/201103115945224?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15945224_Labour_Win_Barnsley_Central_By-Election_Liberal_Democrats_Finish_In_Sixth_Place

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:53 am

A donkey could have won Barnsley for Labour!

I wish Labour had won the last election by 1 seat. They would have been finished now. The electorate are lazy and are clutching at straws. They hear Labour say we don't have to cut even though our borrowing is horrendous and are choosing to beleive it.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:14 am

I think they are telling the government to slow down with the cuts. Not saying cuts should not happen, they should, but should have been done more carefully. When you are pruning, you leave the stem alone and snip off the old growth. I think this government are destroying the stem, then you can't have growth.

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:16 am

sassy1261 wrote:I think they are telling the government to slow down with the cuts. Not saying cuts should not happen, they should, but should have been done more carefully. When you are pruning, you leave the stem alone and snip off the old growth. I think this government are destroying the stem, then you can't have growth.

What an insightful analogy. I think you may be right, some of the cuts have been a bit haphazard. More time should be taken to ensure the cuts cut waste first, but the government has to be seen to be doing something or they could lose support very quickly: which is a shame.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:16 pm

sassy1261 wrote:I think they are telling the government to slow down with the cuts. Not saying cuts should not happen, they should, but should have been done more carefully. When you are pruning, you leave the stem alone and snip off the old growth. I think this government are destroying the stem, then you can't have growth.


Nail the head sassy, ive always said, although necessary, the cuts couls and should have been at a slower pace, regardless of rate of interest, slower cuts are far,far better than harsh, far too soon and sharp cuts, which are defeating the purpose by damaging the economy and any future growth, at least when Labour were in power we had growth.

Mass job losses, all time-high vat rates etc,etc,etc is ruining the whole of Britain, how can the economy grow when you bite the working hands who feed it?, the by elections speak for the future, folk are already sick of this useless, incompetent and foolish coalition, u-turning on tuition fees etc.

The coalition have gone about things totally the wrong way just to try and say"oh, look what we done, reduced the deficit, great eh", without giving a second thought to the masses of folk losing their jobe etc, or the lack of growth in the economy.

What a mess we are now in, we will now have to subside hundreds of thousands more jobseekers dole money, where is the sense in that? incompetent Conservatits.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:50 pm

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Nail the head sassy, ive always said, although necessary, the cuts couls and should have been at a slower pace, regardless of rate of interest, slower cuts are far,far better than harsh, far too soon and sharp cuts, which are defeating the purpose by damaging the economy and any future growth, at least when Labour were in power we had growth.

Mass job losses, all time-high vat rates etc,etc,etc is ruining the whole of Britain, how can the economy grow when you bite the working hands who feed it?, the by elections speak for the future, folk are already sick of this useless, incompetent and foolish coalition, u-turning on tuition fees etc.

The coalition have gone about things totally the wrong way just to try and say"oh, look what we done, reduced the deficit, great eh", without giving a second thought to the masses of folk losing their jobe etc, or the lack of growth in the economy.

What a mess we are now in, we will now have to subside hundreds of thousands more jobseekers dole money, where is the sense in that? incompetent Conservatits.


Better than Brain Dead Socialist.

Again I repeat JD so that it can sink in eventually. We shall be borrowing at the rate of £500 millions per day for some time even with these cuts.

Are you so lazy that you want your children to pay for you to have it easier now. Alsitair Darling himslef stated that the cuts would have to be deeper than anything else before. You are such a plank that you beleive Ed Balls. If he werte Chancellor the cuts might actually haver to be deeper because the International money markets would look more closely at his actions and insist on deeper verifiable cuts.

Still if you would rather stay in denial and not engage that little grey matter you have actually got then so be it.

Remeber we have been here before under Labor.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:06 pm

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Better than Brain Dead Socialist.

Again I repeat JD so that it can sink in eventually. We shall be borrowing at the rate of £500 millions per day for some time even with these cuts.

Are you so lazy that you want your children to pay for you to have it easier now. Alsitair Darling himslef stated that the cuts would have to be deeper than anything else before. You are such a plank that you beleive Ed Balls. If he werte Chancellor the cuts might actually haver to be deeper because the International money markets would look more closely at his actions and insist on deeper verifiable cuts.

Still if you would rather stay in denial and not engage that little grey matter you have actually got then so be it.

Remeber we have been here before under Labor.

The credit rating of Greece has just been downgraded by a further three notches to a miserable B1.

This means that they are paying an eye-watering 12.3% on their national debt which includes an almost £100 billion bailout from Europe.

In other words the Greek economy is well and truly stuffed and the rest of the world doubt that they will be able to pay back what they owe.

Greeks are going to be in hock to international money lenders for generations and there is only one way in which their living standards can go in the future - down.

Yet this is the appalling scenario that the blockheads of the Labour Party want to foist on this country.

It beggars belief.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm

Number 1, can we have less of the brain dead please. Because someone disagrees with you does not make them braindead. The calculation for the cuts are disputed by many people. If they could go ahead with the cuts with no financial consequences then the cuts would work. Unfortunately they can't and the calculations on how much will be offset by paying out more benefits, having a population with less money to buy to keep the economy going round, the oil crisis, the fact that job losses in the public sector will lead to job losses in the private sector (yes I know that the private sector are supposed to be able to produce millions of jobs like a rabbit from a conjurer's hat, rubbish) all add up to a very big minus to put against the plus of the cuts. Frankly, like a lot of people, I think that the minuses will be a lot more than they think and the depression that we are experiencing will get worse, not better and more people will loose their homes etc. We are back to banks paying huge bonuses and its us who are going to pay for them, which the coalition, apart from Vince Cable, don't seem to mind. I think there should be cuts, but the ones they are doing are too fast, ill thought out and the consequences not being weighed up properly. That does not make me brain dead and I would be most grateful if people would follow the ethos of the site and debate without the name calling. Perhaps you had better read a few of Skemsters posts.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:53 pm

sassy1261 wrote:Number 1, can we have less of the brain dead please. Because someone disagrees with you does not make them braindead. The calculation for the cuts are disputed by many people. If they could go ahead with the cuts with no financial consequences then the cuts would work. Unfortunately they can't and the calculations on how much will be offset by paying out more benefits, having a population with less money to buy to keep the economy going round, the oil crisis, the fact that job losses in the public sector will lead to job losses in the private sector (yes I know that the private sector are supposed to be able to produce millions of jobs like a rabbit from a conjurer's hat, rubbish) all add up to a very big minus to put against the plus of the cuts. Frankly, like a lot of people, I think that the minuses will be a lot more than they think and the depression that we are experiencing will get worse, not better and more people will loose their homes etc. We are back to banks paying huge bonuses and its us who are going to pay for them, which the coalition, apart from Vince Cable, don't seem to mind. I think there should be cuts, but the ones they are doing are too fast, ill thought out and the consequences not being weighed up properly. That does not make me brain dead and I would be most grateful if people would follow the ethos of the site and debate without the name calling. Perhaps you had better read a few of Skemsters posts.

Stunning post Sass + for you alien

You raise the points Conservative ideology cannot answer. They are so narrow minded in their view they ignore the bad effects on growth these cuts WILL have. And you did it all whilst coming down on childish insults, I love it- You are my Post of the Day cheers

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:17 pm

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Stunning post Sass + for you alien

You raise the points Conservative ideology cannot answer. They are so narrow minded in their view they ignore the bad effects on growth these cuts WILL have. And you did it all whilst coming down on childish insults, I love it- You are my Post of the Day cheers

Why thank you kind sir, I'm blushing now!!!!!!

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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:28 pm

I thought it was capitalism that caused the collapse of the finacial sector, not socialism.
Meamwhile Bob the Banker grabs himself 6 million in bonuses in this 'we're all in this together' routine being spouted by Osborne.
Aye right George......so we are.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:32 pm

Heart of Midlothian wrote:I thought it was capitalism that caused the collapse of the finacial sector, not socialism.
Meamwhile Bob the Banker grabs himself 6 million in bonuses in this 'we're all in this together' routine being spouted by Osborne.
Aye right George......so we are.


Hi Hearts,

You are spot on; anyone would think we'd jst come out of 13 years of Soviet rule the way som RWers hammer Labour. Now I wont defend Brown, can't stand the man; but he was hardly all that Socialist, and many credit him with leading the world out of financial ruin so it can't be all bad.

Skemster gave a damning argument against Capitalism including that excercised by Labour. The cuts are uncalled for, we need a major economic overhaul.

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