The only way an economy should be run!

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The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:10 am

First we need to identify what exactly is the most valuable resourse at a an economic level!

And that is the population! It isn't to important how low a population is, but things can become more complex with a lack of order within larger populations.

Let us look at the most sucssesfull populations throughout history and how their economies where strong.

Populations with no greater number of individuals than 300. Resourses available are at the limits of a communities ability to exploit and order is at the limit of human intilect. Each individual works to benifit the community and thus giving the population strenth as and when needed.

The wealth of the community is shared by all and all are educated in all aspects of the populations needs.
No one individual aquires more than their share, gained by the sweat of their own brow! It is only natural people capitalise on the strenth of social order, for unity is the greatest of our strenths. Hence why populations are large. The larger the population the greater security and ability to defend the community.

In conclusion: No one individual deserves a greater income/wealth than any other individual within a community, especially where every one can be educated to a relativly equal level within the community.

A primary education is only dependant on three basic constructs devided into three sub catagories!

1: How dose one aquire water (primary sub catagory 1a), make water clean enough to drink (b), and irrigation (c)?

2: What food are nessisary to sustain your own life (the dose not include the killing of any organisms a), how much land is nessisary to sustain you own life (that dose include hunting and cultivation b) what ingrediants can enhance health and eliminate disease in your self (c)?

3: How dose one construct a sanctuary (a), build a community starting at school there by increasing technological understanding as well as communal requirements (b), protect community by studying war (c).

At no point from birth to death within a community would any one deserve a greater income if all resourses are studied at school. Every individuals skills are exploited by all that capitalise on the individual/s spicific abilitys suported by the rest of sociaty. Every one has skills they are best at, the order of every community should enable them to use there ability for the benifit of all not just them selves.

The most advanced technological economy, would be one that is able to create every atom needed from the most universaly abundant resourse available!

H (1), hydrogen. Every atom started as hydrogen, I look forward to the technological advancments such a common technology, available to all, being studied and used in every school that provides every young adult (16 years) a basic secondary education! ; )

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:26 am

Lovely as it would be to be able to contruct our communities on those lines, I'm not quite sure what this has got to do with the complications and ramifications of an economy that is reliant and interlinked with others world wide.

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:37 am

sassy1261 wrote:Lovely as it would be to be able to contruct our communities on those lines, I'm not quite sure what this has got to do with the complications and ramifications of an economy that is reliant and interlinked with others world wide.

An economy is not reliant on external resourses! All an economy requires is water! Communities should be self sufficent!

When it comes to complex technologies then that is science and schools are/should be the center of reserch, study and manufacturing! What many people know and are able to do in many countries around the world today, only masters of the past where capable of understanding after decades of reserch and experimentation.

An economy is reliant on the total knowlage and understanding of its population! If you can't feed your population no matter how small or large. Worse still is if your population is incapable of feeding it self, then your community has no economy!

Gold was first used as a counter weight for scales. Iron first used to increased harvesting capabilities and the sowing of crops. Pottery the long term storage of foods!

Our modern economy is centerd on want, not need! And this is a clear lack of economic understanding! We are trapped in a system that exploits desire and want, forsaking needs. We don't need to cook food! We don't need to heat our homes with electricity or gas. And we shouldn't need to travel to aquire what we need!

Us as individuals are in a very dangerous place! Simply due to a lack of being provided a primary education in economics!

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:13 pm

All that was a long time ago, and we have to think about the real world, not some idealised tiny community.

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:55 pm


the economy when broken down into it's fundamental parts ,it is not rocket science to work out that
10.000 immigrants will not fit into a a country where there is only 1000 house available
and then they say we need to build more houses, and then they let in another 10,000 and so it continues,
the trouble being we do not have the capacity to take any more, it's not being racist it's being a realist
for once can these idiots in power use some common sense. Rolling Eyes


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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:02 pm

tom sawyer wrote:
the economy when broken down into it's fundamental parts ,it is not rocket science to work out that
10.000 immigrants will not fit into a a country where there is only 1000 house available
and then they say we need to build more houses, and then they let in another 10,000 and so it continues,
the trouble being we do not have the capacity to take any more, it's not being racist it's being a realist
for once can these idiots in power use some common sense. Rolling Eyes


Actually Tom, I think that the economy is much more difficult that rocket science, especially in a world where countries are interdependant, with oil etc. Companies want the flow of immigration to give them cheap labour, which is why Cameron appears to have done nothing about it. We do not produce all our own food etc, so have to trade, cloth is made abroad and clothes, even our big shoe factories no longer exist. There will never be a time again when we don't need other countries as they need us.

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:40 pm

sassy1261 wrote:

Actually Tom, I think that the economy is much more difficult that rocket science, especially in a world where countries are interdependant, with oil etc. Companies want the flow of immigration to give them cheap labour, which is why Cameron appears to have done nothing about it. We do not produce all our own food etc, so have to trade, cloth is made abroad and clothes, even our big shoe factories no longer exist. There will never be a time again when we don't need other countries as they need us.

another job well done by our globalization aspirations

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:57 pm

An economy as suggested by the OP is OK if all want a subsistence living. Indeed that seems to be the ultimate aim of Socialism. Equality through levelling down. Once we have spent all our resurces and committed monies for years to come thats is as good as it can get.

He may well get a version of his wish though we will be exporting stuff to other countries to pay of our debts and living a subsistence living ourselves.

As Tom says we have reached the ability to find work and house people some time ago despite which the last govt carried on importing people.

WE have genuine water shortages in the South as a result so even the basics aren't met. Now I'm sounding as despairing as Sassy.

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Re: The only way an economy should be run!

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:44 pm

H20 wrote:An economy as suggested by the OP is OK if all want a subsistence living. Indeed that seems to be the ultimate aim of Socialism. Equality through levelling down. Once we have spent all our resurces and committed monies for years to come thats is as good as it can get.

He may well get a version of his wish though we will be exporting stuff to other countries to pay of our debts and living a subsistence living ourselves.

As Tom says we have reached the ability to find work and house people some time ago despite which the last govt carried on importing people.

WE have genuine water shortages in the South as a result so even the basics aren't met. Now I'm sounding as despairing as Sassy.

Wrong! Sassy is the eternal optimist, never despairing, but always realistic. Sassy it has been said on many occasions, is a glass half full and someone is going to fill it up person.

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