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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:40 am

Nems Again wrote:

Who is like Rowntree or Lever today though?

Richard Branson, given £3billion to charity

Tom Hunter: given just over £1billion

Chris Hohn: gave about £230million

Lord Sainsbury: gave about 230 million to charity and also runs the Sainsbury centre for scientific research.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:36 am

I'm the king wrote:

Richard Branson, given £3billion to charity

Tom Hunter: given just over £1billion

Chris Hohn: gave about £230million

Lord Sainsbury: gave about 230 million to charity and also runs the Sainsbury centre for scientific research.

To charity? What charities? Not being argumentative genuinely dont know. Does it all end up in overseas aid for example how much of it is spent here in the UK.
The days of Lever etc will never come again they built whole towns for their workers and provided everything for their welfare, or did they? or was it more that they made sure most of the workers wages were coming back to them anyway by way of spending in grocery stores they provided etc.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:13 am

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To charity? What charities? Not being argumentative genuinely dont know. Does it all end up in overseas aid for example how much of it is spent here in the UK.
The days of Lever etc will never come again they built whole towns for their workers and provided everything for their welfare, or did they? or was it more that they made sure most of the workers wages were coming back to them anyway by way of spending in grocery stores they provided etc.

That is exactly what happened Nems. There are huge philanthropists, Bill Gates has got a lot of rich people to do brilliant things, George Soros is condemned by many, but has made a great difference to a lot of people, and Rothschild do some things, but mostly towards education I believe.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:35 am

Nems Again wrote:

To charity? What charities? Not being argumentative genuinely dont know. Does it all end up in overseas aid for example how much of it is spent here in the UK.
The days of Lever etc will never come again they built whole towns for their workers and provided everything for their welfare, or did they? or was it more that they made sure most of the workers wages were coming back to them anyway by way of spending in grocery stores they provided etc.

A big chunk of Branson's is to environmental ideas but he also started virgin unite, funds 'the elders' (a bit weird, look it up). Here is a list of charities (outwith his climate change policy) which he has supported in the last 12 months:

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46664
Aegis Trust
Cancer Research UK
Caudwell Children
Children with AIDS
Heavens Angels
International Rescue Corps
Kids Company
Life College
Make A Child Smile Appeal
Marie Keating Foundation
Mineseeker Foundation
Peace One Day
ROTA
Starfish Greathearts Foundation
Strike a Chord for Cancer Foundation
Swan Lifeline
The Elders
Virgin Unite
Whatever It Takes
WildAid

Tom Hunter:
started the hunter foundation which is entirely looking to improve education and reduce poverty, world wide. The first £100million, which he gave on his birthday was entirely in the UK. his main uk partners are children in need and cash for kids.

Chris Hohn: Mainly aids charities and emergency response funding.

Lord sainsbury: gave £82 million to cambridge Uni to fund research last year. the main area of his giving (bar his scientific research park and arts centre which isn't taken into account on this as they aren't registerred charities) is the gatsby foundation which give charitable grants to various institutes.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:49 am

All tax deductable?
Sorry I struggle to believe in altruism in this day and age.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:50 am

I'm the king wrote:

A big chunk of Branson's is to environmental ideas but he also started virgin unite, funds 'the elders' (a bit weird, look it up). Here is a list of charities (outwith his climate change policy) which he has supported in the last 12 months:

21st Century Leaders
46664
Aegis Trust
Cancer Research UK
Caudwell Children
Children with AIDS
Heavens Angels
International Rescue Corps
Kids Company
Life College
Make A Child Smile Appeal
Marie Keating Foundation
Mineseeker Foundation
Peace One Day
ROTA
Starfish Greathearts Foundation
Strike a Chord for Cancer Foundation
Swan Lifeline
The Elders
Virgin Unite
Whatever It Takes
WildAid

Tom Hunter:
started the hunter foundation which is entirely looking to improve education and reduce poverty, world wide. The first £100million, which he gave on his birthday was entirely in the UK. his main uk partners are children in need and cash for kids.

Chris Hohn: Mainly aids charities and emergency response funding.

Lord sainsbury: gave £82 million to cambridge Uni to fund research last year. the main area of his giving (bar his scientific research park and arts centre which isn't taken into account on this as they aren't registerred charities) is the gatsby foundation which give charitable grants to various institutes.

Good post King -- Well done!.

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Post by victorismyhero on Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:34 pm

I'm the king wrote:

A big chunk of Branson's is to environmental ideas but he also started virgin unite, funds 'the elders' (a bit weird, look it up). Here is a list of charities (outwith his climate change policy) which he has supported in the last 12 months:

21st Century Leaders
46664
Aegis Trust
Cancer Research UK
Caudwell Children
Children with AIDS
Heavens Angels
International Rescue Corps
Kids Company
Life College
Make A Child Smile Appeal
Marie Keating Foundation
Mineseeker Foundation
Peace One Day
ROTA
Starfish Greathearts Foundation
Strike a Chord for Cancer Foundation
Swan Lifeline
The Elders
Virgin Unite
Whatever It Takes
WildAid

Tom Hunter:
started the hunter foundation which is entirely looking to improve education and reduce poverty, world wide. The first £100million, which he gave on his birthday was entirely in the UK. his main uk partners are children in need and cash for kids.

Chris Hohn: Mainly aids charities and emergency response funding.

Lord sainsbury: gave £82 million to cambridge Uni to fund research last year. the main area of his giving (bar his scientific research park and arts centre which isn't taken into account on this as they aren't registerred charities) is the gatsby foundation which give charitable grants to various institutes.


This is EXACTLY the sort of thing that makes my blood boil. Whilst not wishing in ANY way to denigrate the generosity of such charitable giving thats still only a very few in number
AND...whilst their collective efforts are in the billions, it is sickeningly noticeable that it has made LITTLE impact on actual levels of poverty in the uk....for instance ...if there is so much money going into charities...why was I accosted twice today by SHELTER teams begging for cash for homless IN TODAYS DAY AND AGE????????. WHY, do i keep getting begging letters from barnardo's?? WHY is there even discussion of how big a drain on the country the disabled are, when in fact the savings from disqualifying so many (and so many wrongly) adds up to a measley 300 million(naturally of course the COST of acheiving that saving is 500 million, but then thats just good govt maths for you scratch ) considering the number of over fat over paid and thouroughly useless bankers whos collective "bonus" (note bonus ...NOT wages) exceeds that figure 10 fold. the problem is distribution of course...we keep hearing about how hard it is for "employers" or business to survive...but what about a fair days wage for a fair days work....and minimum wage isnt that AT ALL, NOT when bankers and ceo's are getting lottery win bonuses on top of telephone figure wages. hear them scream about tax levels...and how its pressurising them....RUBBISH ....dont forget that tax is "banded" so you get tax on the first amount, then ANYTHING OVER that is taxed at the higher level...not the whole lot. Even when taxes went up to 93% affraid ouch....in most cases that 93% was only on the last 10% or less of income for MOST in that bracket. And moreover we are talking about tax on PERSONAL EARNINGS....tax on businesses is a different matter... I would suggets a 93% tax on UNEARNED income (and that would include bonuses) over 100000. (share dealings wouldbe classed as personal income....however shares instead of cash for bonuses would NOT. After all...the far right especially, and the capitalists particularly are always telling us plebs how we should EARN our living .....it seems only fair that unjustifiable unearned income should be punitively taxed....
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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:02 pm

It was an excellent post Victor....I don't necessarily agree with it all, but it was well done. Cool

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