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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:07 pm

She tells her children to do as she says and not as she does. But the words of mother of 14 Joanne Watson – who receives more than £2,000 a month in state handouts – have fallen on deaf ears.

Her 15-year-old daughter Mariah is pregnant, the father has ‘left the scene’, and the youngster is about to start living off benefits. Mrs Watson, 40, is raising her giant brood alone after parting from her husband John, 46, three years ago, and breaking up with subsequent partner Craig le Sauvage, 35, last year.


Tight squeeze: Joanne Watson with the 11 children still living at home. Daughter Mariah, who is 15 and pregnant, is next to her mother

Despite this, she has still managed to squirrel away enough cash for a £1,600 breast enhancement and a sunbed. She claims she has always encouraged her daughters to use contraception – but, inevitably, it seems they would rather follow the family tradition. Mariah’s pregnancy comes after Mrs Watson’s oldest daughter Natasha, 22, got pregnant with her son Branford, now six, when she was 16. Her second eldest daughter Shanice, 19, also got pregnant at 16 with her 22-month-old son Marley.

Mariah says she has no concerns about becoming a teenage mother, as it seems the most natural thing in the world. Initially, she and her child will be supported by the taxpayer.


More children: Mother of Britain's biggest family Joanne Watson, 40, (right), with her pregnant 15-year-old daughter Mariah (left), who is expecting to give birth in October

She is expected to move into a housing complex for single mothers and will receive supplementary benefit and child allowance for her baby. The youngster, who is due to have a boy, said: ‘I’m not nervous. I’ve been around babies my whole life so I know what to expect and that I can handle it. The father isn’t involved and I don’t want him to be either. I’m really excited and think I will be a great mum.’

Mrs Watson, who had her first child at 18, said: ‘Of course no one wants their teenage daughters to get pregnant. I’ve always urged them to use contraception – but if they refuse to there’s not much I can do about it. But I don’t believe in abortions, and Mariah wanted to have the baby, so now I just have to do my best to support her.

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Utter rubbish. There is absolutely NO excuse for this. There are so many forms of contraception available today including implants No

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Post by victorismyhero on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:31 pm

Feelthelove wrote:She tells her children to do as she says and not as she does. But the words of mother of 14 Joanne Watson – who receives more than £2,000 a month in state handouts – have fallen on deaf ears.

Her 15-year-old daughter Mariah is pregnant, the father has ‘left the scene’, and the youngster is about to start living off benefits. Mrs Watson, 40, is raising her giant brood alone after parting from her husband John, 46, three years ago, and breaking up with subsequent partner Craig le Sauvage, 35, last year.


Tight squeeze: Joanne Watson with the 11 children still living at home. Daughter Mariah, who is 15 and pregnant, is next to her mother

Despite this, she has still managed to squirrel away enough cash for a £1,600 breast enhancement and a sunbed. She claims she has always encouraged her daughters to use contraception – but, inevitably, it seems they would rather follow the family tradition. Mariah’s pregnancy comes after Mrs Watson’s oldest daughter Natasha, 22, got pregnant with her son Branford, now six, when she was 16. Her second eldest daughter Shanice, 19, also got pregnant at 16 with her 22-month-old son Marley.

Mariah says she has no concerns about becoming a teenage mother, as it seems the most natural thing in the world. Initially, she and her child will be supported by the taxpayer.


More children: Mother of Britain's biggest family Joanne Watson, 40, (right), with her pregnant 15-year-old daughter Mariah (left), who is expecting to give birth in October

She is expected to move into a housing complex for single mothers and will receive supplementary benefit and child allowance for her baby. The youngster, who is due to have a boy, said: ‘I’m not nervous. I’ve been around babies my whole life so I know what to expect and that I can handle it. The father isn’t involved and I don’t want him to be either. I’m really excited and think I will be a great mum.’

Mrs Watson, who had her first child at 18, said: ‘Of course no one wants their teenage daughters to get pregnant. I’ve always urged them to use contraception – but if they refuse to there’s not much I can do about it. But I don’t believe in abortions, and Mariah wanted to have the baby, so now I just have to do my best to support her.

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Utter rubbish. There is absolutely NO excuse for this. There are so many forms of contraception available today including implants No


well now, I'm somewhat torn on this. First instincts say on noes, not another.....spay the bitch....But then again, perhaps we need folks like this as our only bastion against those "invaders" out breeding us....
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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:38 pm

Actually Victor, I think she looks a bit middle eastern!

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Post by victorismyhero on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:41 pm

sassy1261 wrote:Actually Victor, I think she looks a bit middle eastern!

trust you sassy..... but i recon its only the old ones skirt that looks that way.....but at least, they aint got their asses up and their noses down 5 times a day and I recon sharia law is the LAST thing they would want.....
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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:25 am

Its very hard to rectify such acts retrospectivelly of course.

(Frankly I DO have a view & a method as to how to do so, BUT the lilly livered public at large would never go along withit)
Some will of course suggest that its HER RIGHT to have so many kids but in my view its also MY RIGHT NOT to have to pay out benefits to such ignorant and selfish people... (the age thing is a VERY different issue maybe?)
There needs to be a CAP on benefits with regard to the number of kids in a family...
I agree with the middle eastern look suggestion btw-the nose has it...? I suggest she's not too bright also however and some of her kids look a little errm spaced out...look at the eyes.....?
Finally, 9 of her 11 kids are girls, so that bodes well for yet further preggo's in that NEAR future family expansion - and the amount of yet MORE benefits for us to pay out!

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 am

Just proves that you should be vetted before being allowed to breed! Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:39 am

MrDoodles wrote:Just proves that you should be vetted before being allowed to breed! Twisted Evil

We have a culture here in the UK where several generations have been brought up to live off benefits, no questions asked.

A gradual withdrawing of lifetime benefits will redress the balance I think.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:42 am

Seren wrote:

We have a culture here in the UK where several generations have been brought up to live off benefits, no questions asked.

A gradual withdrawing of lifetime benefits will redress the balance I think.

It'a a VERY easy problem to solve! Twisted Evil

Just announce that 9 months from today, that child benefit stops for all new-born children and that getting pregnant, no longer get's you a Council House! Twisted Evil

See how many of these young mums want to live at home with a baby and no money!! Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:02 pm

victorismyhero wrote:

trust you sassy..... but i recon its only the old ones skirt that looks that way.....but at least, they aint got their asses up and their noses down 5 times a day and I recon sharia law is the LAST thing they would want.....

Wasn't her skirt I was looking at Victor, it was her face lol

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Seren wrote:

We have a culture here in the UK where several generations have been brought up to live off benefits, no questions asked.

A gradual withdrawing of lifetime benefits will redress the balance I think.

Benefits should be a stop gap for people who fall on hard times, the disabled, the elderly etc. They shouldn't be viewed as a lifestyle choice No

It's a very difficult cycle to break Sad

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:58 pm

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Benefits should be a stop gap for people who fall on hard times, the disabled, the elderly etc. They shouldn't be viewed as a lifestyle choice No


Blimey FTL, that sounds remarkably like http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/housing-welfare Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:32 pm

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Benefits should be a stop gap for people who fall on hard times, the disabled, the elderly etc. They shouldn't be viewed as a lifestyle choice No

It's a very difficult cycle to break Sad

Yes, I hope to see the coalition doing more to get people into productive employment. I think after several generations of non working households people just do not have the get up and go to break the cycle.

I often watch that "Fairy Jobmother" on TV. Brilliant series and just shows what some coaching and encouragement can do!

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Post by victorismyhero on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:48 pm

The indepenDant wrote:Its very hard to rectify such acts retrospectivelly of course.

(Frankly I DO have a view & a method as to how to do so, BUT the lilly livered public at large would never go along withit)Some will of course suggest that its HER RIGHT to have so many kids but in my view its also MY RIGHT NOT to have to pay out benefits to such ignorant and selfish people... (the age thing is a VERY different issue maybe?)
There needs to be a CAP on benefits with regard to the number of kids in a family...
I agree with the middle eastern look suggestion btw-the nose has it...? I suggest she's not too bright also however and some of her kids look a little errm spaced out...look at the eyes.....?Finally, 9 of her 11 kids are girls, so that bodes well for yet further preggo's in that NEAR future family expansion - and the amount of yet MORE benefits for us to pay out!


And I wonder what you "retrospective rectification" would be, no, dont answer, I suspect, if it is anything like your post on the refugee boat burning, it will make me puke.


So she doesnt in your view look too bright, doubtless you would thus say that anyone who, in your opinion doesnt look "right" should not be allowed to have children?? What arrogance! What Ignorance. the Law, you may have forgotten, already deals with THAT point.

I already have posted at length about a solution to this problem, one which is fair all round, provides security for ALL, and would eliminate poverty from this country in a stroke , but of course the "It's mine all mine, greedy grasping and generally under-educated "new well to-do" dont like it. Not because it will cost them a deal more, indeed some may even gain, but because it would give a better living to "those down below", hatred contempt and jealousy in the same bucket, yeuck what a mix.

Why is it that the only decent solution to the problems we as a nation face, lies with a moderate national socialist movement, and why is it that the far right are composed (not all but to a large degree) with inhuman, uneducated, greedy grasping self serving fools who's only real interest is not this nation, but themselves. Notice how they cry I am fed up of paying for this or that and I am fed up with this or that, all the time I,I,I Me Me Me.

Why is it that they glory in death and gory punishment, uncivilised, and repugnant as it is, they cry that law is perfect and incorruptible....then squeal when it goes against them oh the law is twisted.

No..I reject the far right and its brutal, short sighted ideals, as much as I reject the liberalists, with their wooley, rose tinted specs approach to life. to my mind one is as bad for the nation as the other (though for VERY VERY different reasons let it be said.)


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Post by victorismyhero on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:49 pm

Seren wrote:

Yes, I hope to see the coalition doing more to get people into productive employment. I think after several generations of non working households people just do not have the get up and go to break the cycle.

I often watch that "Fairy Jobmother" on TV. Brilliant series and just shows what some coaching and encouragement can do!

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Seren wrote:

Yes, I hope to see the coalition doing more to get people into productive employment. I think after several generations of non working households people just do not have the get up and go to break the cycle.

I often watch that "Fairy Jobmother" on TV. Brilliant series and just shows what some coaching and encouragement can do!

I had to do the same with my eldest grandson, he had been looking for work since leaving college and my eldest daughter is so busy she had not put the time in with him. He got very dispirited and thought he was enemployable. I took him out, bought him a suit, we wrote his CV, wrote letter after letter, I never let him stay in bed in the morning, sent him out the door to look, and now he is working and very happy he has money in his pocket!

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victorismyhero wrote:

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got up and went..... scratch

No it didn't, its still going strong Victor, one way or another!!!!! Laughing


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Post by victorismyhero on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:35 pm

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I had to do the same with my eldest grandson, he had been looking for work since leaving college and my eldest daughter is so busy she had not put the time in with him. He got very dispirited and thought he was enemployable. I took him out, bought him a suit, we wrote his CV, wrote letter after letter, I never let him stay in bed in the morning, sent him out the door to look, and now he is working and very happy he has money in his pocket!



As I have posted before....A solution, and a good one methinks....just bear in mind I havnt got acess to ALL the figures, so things like the tax levels and so on are a wild and probably wrong guess, though i think I have guessed high.....

So, Just HOW would you run the country?

When we look at whats going on, It is obvious that the old 3 party system is no longer fit for the purpose, and a big change is needed, but who do we look to? The obvious choice is the BNP, but, they are hamstrung by their past, and come to that, the past of nationalism. However we have to realise that just as socialism has changed over the years (and not for the better it might be added) so has nationalism. The BNP are largely marginalized, with their numbers bolstered mainly by discontented and, it has to be said the I’m all right jack…sod you brigade, so much is obvious by the various posts we see on the forum, the attitude displayed by those posters towards disabled, gay and ethnic minorities, is often only marginally short of that displayed by certain people in the 1930’s in another nation. Personally I have a lot of sympathy towards the BNP’s stance on many things….BUT I cannot support them simply because there is an underlying malice that just cannot be removed, a malice that shows in statements that come from various senior members, and that rolls forth on a daily basis from their supporters on this forum. Also, in many areas the BNP’s policy does not go far enough…it is not radical enough and fails to address the issues of today, nor the fact that many of those issues will be worse in the not to distant future

So, how would YOU run the country…well…I would do it like this, and please, bear in mind that in most cases, where I would make monetary suggestions…I have limited information on the amounts of money actually floating around…Lets face it none of us have ANY real idea of the TRUE balance sheet of the nation. I merely propose the ideas for reasonable discussion…..If your input is going to be limited to “wanker
” “pillock” “twat” etc …don’t bother replying, if however you can make CONSTRUCTIVE comment, or back your point with REAL figures, then great…

Financial policy

1, leave the EU as fast as is practicable, if necessary subsidising British interests in order to speed it up

2, cancel ALL foreign aid, except where such aid is clearly and independantly demonstrated to be properly used to the benefit of the intended recipients

3, tear up any and all agreements to pay anyone any “carbon taxes”

4, increase duty on All alcohol and smoking material by 10% per year for 10 years

5, cease all expenditure on anti smoking advertising…if people want to smoke…its up to them…and they bring in more in duty than they cost in health care..

6, reduce vehicle excise duty on all vehicles to a nominal £20 per year to cover registration costs

7 increase the rate of fuel duty by 30p this year and by 10p per year for the next 5 years

8,
9 legalise cannabis and make it duty payed the same as tobacco

10 legalise prostitution, making the bordello owner legally responsible for the health care of the girls. Make street prostitution strictly illegal with severe penalties for breaches of this law…especially for the pimps

Now this is whats gonna bite…..

11…remove ALL state benefits pensions etc

now…stop slavering…..wait….down you dog called the left,

12…replace it with a SINGLE…UNTAXABLE state payment, payable to ALL UK citizens over the age of 16, on a residency basis ONLY…at a level which provides a bare minimum standard of living ( I would guess that’s about at statutory minimum wage level)

13 remove the statutory minimum wage

14 remove all tax allowances

15 All income beyond the state payment to be taxed at 50% up to 150,000

16 over 150,000 taxed at 75%

17 make all tax returns the duty of the EMPLOYER…..with heavy penalties for defaulters


Reasoning:

1 the EU costs us more than it brings to us, both in terms of fixed costs and invisible costs

2 foreign aid is mainly misused, and in the situation we are in…we cant afford it

3 man made climate change is a load of old cobblers…made up to subjugate the west
yes the climates changing…but its been doing that for years…also…an interesting fact…that Icelandic volcano that hiccupped a bit back…wiped out the last 10 years carbon savings…and the next 20 to come….…..no point paying through the nose to fight nature…

4, it’s a good cash cow

5 need I say more, and I’m sick of the nanny state

6 & 7 transfer the VED to fuel duty…he who uses most pays most

8 watch this space…

9 more money to the exchequer…and …ask a cop who he would sooner scrape up from the door way…a drunk or a pothead???

10…why not…about time we caught up with the 21st century…and just think of the income tax…not to mention the vat and duty….

11….17

this is the really serious bit of this….

We have, on all sides of the political divide, to realise that for good or bad, and for whatever reason and regardless of who’s “fault it is , the world has changed mightily.
2-3 generations have lived in a system where there has been little hope of a job, such jobs as are available are seen as demeaning and or unpleasant. It has also to be recognised that many jobs which would have sustained most of these folk have gone for good…exported…destroyed. There is a job gulf bigger than ever before…its either cleaning the loos or a degree position…so we have to recognise that there are a lot, an awful lot, of folks who are going to be loo cleaners….NOT.
It must also be recognised that due to years of poor social education, poor parental and teacher leadership, and the sickening creep of liberalist sheeping visible in soaps and the brainless useless celebrity magazines….there are a lot of folks who are psychologically incapable of work in any sustained manner, but who would, if given the chance do some part time work here and there In order to better themselves. Those who WANT to work…will…and despite a higher tax band etc would still be much better of even I suspect than at present.

We should get away from the Victorian “christian work ethic”…that is no longer fit for the purpose, and instead focus on creating a society where fairness means a relaxed attitude to working, where working is as much for self improvement as it is for “stuffing the wallet of the industrialist” and at the same time recognising that not everyone is born to be top man….as Einstein said….”Vell….Ve cant all be first violinners in der orchestra, some of us have to push der vindt through der trombone”

Yes there will be those who will just say oki …I’ll take the state wage and put me feet up….but then that’s where they will stay…...some will say well I want a bit more…and do part time ..here and there jobs…easy to do with no dole office idiots to try to negotiate part time work with… others will as they always have…get on with things and get well paid full time jobs..with the state wage making up for the loss due to higher taxes etc…and with some to spare in the middle bracket…which most of us belong to I suspect.

I strongly suspect that such a move would benefit everyone, providing financial security for all, at the penalty of just retargeting costs and payments.

Finally let me ask you to read carefully and think through the implications of this approach…I know there are things implicit in this that I haven’t made obvious…due to time…and the fact I cant think and type at the same time Razz Things like the cost of providing the present benefits costs as much or more as the benfits themselves…get rid of the benefits and you get back double…

More to follow if you want it…or even if you don’t….


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And...to follow it up....

Social policy
1 get rid of the stupidity that is the human rights act as it has evolved into

1a, get rid of the EHRC and our beloved mr Phillips…..

2 replace it with a UK bill of rights and responsibilities

3 such a bill of rights to be based on (not a copy of) the ORIGINAL 1957 charter of human rights

4 NO DEATH PENALTY. It is barbaric, ineffectual in deterrence, and serves only to feed the need for vicarious revenge of some sectors of society.

5 HOWEVER ..life to mean life with no hope of parole, and not in a 5 star hotel either

6 prisons to be graded in severity of conditions, from basic for minor offences to positively horrible for vile offences, none of them being places you would really want to go to

7 sentencing guidelines to be altered to allow judges to penalise the “nastyness” of a crime as an example…..a guy breaks in to your shed and pinches your mower…ok that’s annoying but…..however (and this happened) some youths broke into an elderly canary breeders shed (the guy was 75 and his canaries were his life in a way…he had been breeding em for years) and killed all his canaries….that’s just nasty…especially since those canaries were this guys lifes work….those youths shoud get 5 years in a “nasty” prison…if you see what I mean.

7a, call a one off amnesty for ALL stupid minor crime…lets empty the jails of those who don’t really need to be there…you know…the guy who didn’t pay his tv fine…the poll tax defaulter….the minor fraudster….and a lot of the other non violent offenders that are in there atm….THEN we can start turning them into “basic” to “nasty” places. With the warning to those just released…..we let you off THIS time…next time…it wont be so nice in there.

8 better mental evaluation of “evil” crimes the “is he mad or bad “ debate needs to be addressed urgently. If he’s mad he needs to be in a secure hospital..if he’s bad …well there’s life in the “nasty” prison, but it can be easily argued that ANYONE who pointlessly commits a truly evil crime…such as the recent baby killer….is actually mad, got a screw loose….since no one commits such a crime..for no apparent reason….if its done for a reason however…like profit, or politics…well that’s bad not mad IMO.

8a, anonymity unless and until guilt is proven for ANYONE involved in a sex case

9 stop ALL forms of “positive discrimination” since no form of discrimination is right except in the PC gone mad world

10 reverse the PC culture which is aimed at destroying peoples identity and right of self expression

11 strengthen the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of expression and opinion….with the corollary that inciting hatred or violence of any sort is strictly forbidden….as an example…..it should be fine for someone to stand on his soap box and say I hate (insert whatever section of society you want)…that’s his opinion …and he has a right to voice it…..what is NOT OK is to say …I hate (insert whatever section of society you want), so should you , lets go and beat some…This is where rights and responsibility comes into it…..you have a right to freedom of speech and expression…..you have consequently a RESPONSIBILITY to use that freedom in a way that doesn’t infringe the rights of someone else to live a peaceful life


12 bring in laws to control the “compensation culture” and ambulance chasers…Its about time we got back to realising that accidents sometimes do indeed just happen, and that sometimes these accidents are as much our own fault as anyone elses.

13 enforce a system of law that recognises that people SHOULD take responsibility for the consequences of their own stupidity, so..if you break into someones house and their dog eats your leg…….who’s bloody fault is that then??…

14 make it a requirement that equality of persons is properly encouraged, by the provision where necessary of the required facilities, ie ramps for disabled, breastfeeding facilities for mothers…. in other words …the obvious….for a fair and decent society

15 evolve a system whereby community efforts, outstanding service, acts of outstanding courage etc are properly recognised, and give the recipient some tangible benefit

16…oooer…you gonna hate me for this…..the biometric identity card…..taken to its theoretical limit….with your finger print retinal print and DNA profile encoded into it….with the ability to have shall we say “slots”on it..like one for pubs…one for public transport ..one for being allowed out after 9 at night …etc etc….NOW if you are naughty and cause a problem with drinking…next time you go in the pub…when you buy a pint ..the landlord says …card pls…..and the card, when read says…uh oh…oh no……and you cant get served……

17…that’s it for tonite…me ‘ead ‘urts
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