James Bulger Killer Loses Bid For Freedom

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:05 am

sassy1261 wrote:

What do I reckon? Inner peace is something i have have always had, whether you have it or not would not like to say. Thats for you to decide.

Night Victor, you are quite correct, we are balmy!

Yep! But I'd love to know what those big waves are about.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:06 am

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Ouija boards...How funny this is as you have evoked an old childhood memory of mine.It must have have been about 40 years ago when me Mum & Dad were visiting friends who decided to get the ouija board out & call for ghosts......I'm nearly pissing myself laughing at this because my Mum didn't want me to get involved but I & the family friends insisted that I play.

Well to cut it short,I made such a good job of pretending that I was possessed by a ghost that my Mum started screaming......Oh I am pissing myself laughing.......But it all went wrong for me when I spelt out the word 'bum' on the board & burst out laughing.
Well my Mum bounced my head so hard that I saw dozens of ghosts,pixies,goblins & Christ knows what.

Nowadays my Mum can't remember what happened 5 minutes ago.................Dementia.

That made me giggle. Dementia is a horrible thing. I am so lucky that my parents are still going strong and fully compis mentis at 89 and 86. My dad is still organising and my mum is still telling him how to!


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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:07 am

shady wrote:

Yep! But I'd love to know what those big waves are about.

probably too many sea stories coming to get you!

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:08 am

sassy1261 wrote:

That made me giggle. Dementia is a horrible thing. I am so lucky that my parents are still going strong and fully compis mentas at 89 and 86. My dad is still organising and my mum is still telling him how to!

Dementia is a curse.It's straight from hell & has nothing to do with this planet.....Straight from bloody hell.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:10 am

shady wrote:

Dementia is a curse.It's straight from hell & has nothing to do with this planet.....Straight from bloody hell.

I cannot think of anything worse, both for me and them, if that happened. They have both been such capable, strong people who have been my rocks, it would be devastating.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:11 am

sassy1261 wrote:

probably too many sea stories coming to get you!

Probably caused by my Mum wacking me all those years ago.

I tell you what though,it was worth it.Because the look of realization on her face when she twigged that I wasn't possessed by a ghost & that everyone was giggling at her.LOL!

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:15 am

shady wrote:

Probably caused by my Mum wacking me all those years ago.

I tell you what though,it was worth it.Because the look of realization on her face when she twigged that I wasn't possessed by a ghost & that everyone was giggling at her.LOL!

There is nothing quite like our childhood memories. Thats why I fight so hard for my grandaughter now her mum has gone. She has her memories, but some of them are not so good and I want to make sure there are loads of good ones to replace them.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:16 am

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I cannot think of anything worse, both for me and them, if that happened. They have both been such capable, strong people who have been my rocks, it would be devastating.

The thing for me was that I thought that I would be able to look after her at home.But when I started to really suss out dementia it became apparent that I wasn't equipped to deal with her at home.And a long talk with social services,who were brilliant made me realised that dementia sufferers need the constant attention of people who are trained in that field.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:18 am

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There is nothing quite like our childhood memories. Thats why I fight so hard for my grandaughter now her mum has gone. She has her memories, but some of them are not so good and I want to make sure there are loads of good ones to replace them.

The good ones will eventually out weigh the painful ones.

Good luck to you Sassy & goodnight.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:22 am

shady wrote:

The good ones will eventually out weigh the painful ones.

Good luck to you Sassy & goodnight.

Thank you Shady, goodnight.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:54 am

There seems to be a very narrow view in this case of 'what if James had been your child'...

This is an obvious stand point we can all sympathise with; but what of the other- what if Venables or Thompson had been your child. How would your view change then? Wouldn't you want to hope they could change?

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:19 am

eilzel wrote:There seems to be a very narrow view in this case of 'what if James had been your child'...

This is an obvious stand point we can all sympathise with; but what of the other- what if Venables or Thompson had been your child. How would your view change then? Wouldn't you want to hope they could change?

If those boys had been my child then I too would have had to have been "raising" them in a alcoholic, abusive environment with full access to hard core pornography!!

I'm sorry Eilzel, try as I might, I cannot put myself in that mindset.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:12 pm

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If those boys had been my child then I too would have had to have been "raising" them in a alcoholic, abusive environment with full access to hard core pornography!!

I'm sorry Eilzel, try as I might, I cannot put myself in that mindset.

Then maybe the mindset of the child it happened to and who no longer knew right from wrong and who has had his mentality twisted for ever. I don't think he should ever have been let out, because he is a broken person, but he was broken by his parents and they should be paying the price as well.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:33 pm

Seren wrote:

If those boys had been my child then I too would have had to have been "raising" them in a alcoholic, abusive environment with full access to hard core pornography!!

I'm sorry Eilzel, try as I might, I cannot put myself in that mindset.

No you don't Seren. You can look at it as though it was just your son who had gone off the rails for whatever reason. A lack of empathy is why when this case first came out we had feral savages charging the vans the two children were being transported in. People react to the easiest side, and be damned if they will hear anything otherwise.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:46 pm

shady wrote:

Yep! But I'd love to know what those big waves are about.

Have you watched the Film "A Perfect Storm"? Question Question

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Post by Guest on Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:29 am

eilzel wrote:

No you don't Seren. You can look at it as though it was just your son who had gone off the rails for whatever reason. A lack of empathy is why when this case first came out we had feral savages charging the vans the two children were being transported in. People react to the easiest side, and be damned if they will hear anything otherwise.

Oh please. have you not just turned the entire world of psychiatry on it's head. You want to imagine that these kids are just normal, well-adjusted, cared for individuals who "went off the rails". In what way Eilzel? Did they have some sort of mental breakdown.

These boys were a result of abuse, pure and simple. You are asking somebody to "imagine" being a parent who cares.

They had no caring parent - that is why they were like they were.

Okay try to imagine yourself being the mother of baby P then. See you can't put yourself in her shoes as she is an evil witch who openly deceived the social services and knew that boyfriend was an evil so and so.

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