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Post by Guest on Sat May 14, 2011 10:54 pm

sassy1261 wrote:Racism is when someone is disadvantaged or vilified simply because of their race, colour or creed.

Not so sassy, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a Lefty Liberal! Rolling Eyes

Racism, is a belief that human races have distinctive characteristics that determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one’s race is superior and has the right to control others. Twisted Evil

If you genuinely think that there are people that think that their race is superior and that they think that they have the right to control others, then I feel sorry for you! Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 12:05 am

MrDoodles wrote:

Not so sassy, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a Lefty Liberal! Rolling Eyes

Racism, is a belief that human races have distinctive characteristics that determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one’s race is superior and has the right to control others. Twisted Evil

If you genuinely think that there are people that think that their race is superior and that they think that they have the right to control others, then I feel sorry for you! Twisted Evil

If you don't think that you are delusional:

From Wiki:

White supremacy is the belief, and promotion of the belief, that white people are superior to people of other racial backgrounds. The term is sometimes used specifically to describe a political ideology that advocates the social and political dominance by whites.[1] White supremacy, as with racial supremacism in general, is rooted in ethnocentrism and a desire for hegemony,[2] and has frequently resulted in violence against non-whites. Different forms of white supremacy have different conceptions of who is considered white, and not all white supremacist organizations agree on who is their greatest enemy.[3]

White supremacist groups can be found in some countries and regions with a significant white population, including North America, Europe, Russia, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Latin America. The militant approach taken by white supremacist groups has caused them to be watched closely by law enforcement officials. Some European countries have laws forbidding hate speech, as well as other laws that ban or restrict some white supremacist organizations.

[edit] Systemic white supremacyWhite supremacy was dominant in the United States before the American Civil War and for decades after Reconstruction.[4] In large areas of the United States, this included the holding of non-whites (specifically African Americans) in chattel slavery. The outbreak of the Civil War saw the desire to uphold white supremacy cited as a cause for state secession[5] and the formation of the Confederate States of America.[6]

In some parts of the United States, many people who were considered non-white were disenfranchised, barred from government office, and prevented from holding most government jobs well into the second half of the twentieth century. Many U.S. states banned interracial marriage through anti-miscegenation laws until 1967, when these laws were declared unconstitutional. White leaders often viewed Native Americans as obstacles to economic and political progress, rather than as settlers in their own right.

White supremacy was also dominant in South Africa under apartheid and in parts of Europe at various time periods. Governments of many European-settled countries bordering the Pacific Ocean limited immigration and naturalization from the Asian Pacific countries, usually on a cultural basis. South Africa maintained its white supremacist apartheid system until the early 1990s.[citation needed]

[edit] Ideologies and movementsSupporters of Nordicism and Germanism consider Nordic people (Scandinavians, Germans, British and Dutch) to be superior, shunning those of Southern and Eastern Europe (who may have darker features and different cultures), including mostly Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, white Latin Americans, Lusophone, white Africans, and Russians, along with anyone whose ethnic heritage is not European. By the early-19th century white supremacy was attached to emerging theories of racial hierarchy. The German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer attributed civilisational primacy to the White race:

The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate.[7]


Members of the second Ku Klux Klan at a rally in 1923.The eugenicist Madison Grant argued the Nordic race had been responsible for most of humanity's great achievements, and that admixture was "race suicide".[8] In Grant's 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race, Europeans who were not of Germanic origin, but who had Nordic characteristics such as blonde/red hair and blue/green/gray eyes were considered to be a Nordic admixture and suitable for Aryanization.[9]

In the United States, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the group most associated with the white supremacist movement. Many white supremacist groups are based on the concept of preserving genetic purity, and do not focus solely on discrimination by skin color.[10] The KKK's reasons for supporting racial segregation are not primarily based on religious ideals, but some Klan groups are openly Protestant. The KKK and other white supremacist groups like Aryan Nations, The Order and the White Patriot Party are considered Anti-Semitic.[10]


The Good Citizen 1926 Published by Pillar of Fire ChurchChristian Identity is another movement closely tied to white supremacy. Some white supremacists identify themselves as Odinists, although many Odinists reject white supremacy. Some white supremacist groups, such as the South African Boeremag, conflate elements of Christianity and Odinism. The World Church of the Creator (now called the Creativity Movement) is atheistic and denounces religion for dividing the white race.[11][12] Aside from this, its ideology is similar to many Christian Identity groups, in their belief that there is a Jewish conspiracy in control of governments, the banking industry and the media. Matthew F. Hale, founder of the World Church of the Creator has published articles claiming that all races other than white are "mud races".[10] His movement claims that a Racial Holy War is destined to happen, which would eliminate Jews and "mud races" from the planet.[citation needed] Several prominent doctors have postulated that his ideologies came about as a result of acute schizophrenia and as a means for coping with insecurities brought on by traumatic childhood experiences.

The white supremacist ideology has become associated with a racist faction of the skinhead subculture, despite the fact that when the skinhead culture first developed in the United Kingdom in the late 1960s, it was heavily influenced by black fashions and music, especially Jamaican reggae and ska, and African American soul music[13][14][15] By the 1980s, a sizeable and vocal white power skinhead faction had formed

White supremacist recruitment tactics are primarily on a grassroots level and on the Internet. Widespread access to the Internet has led to a dramatic increase in white supremacist websites.[16] The Internet provides a venue to openly express white supremacist ideas at little social cost, because people who post the information are able to remain anonymous




Oh yes, that will be the KKK that dear old Nick loves so much.



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Re: "Milly Dowler case reminds us that ‘Racism Cuts Both Ways’"

Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 8:36 am

Yeah, there's so many attacks in this Country by "White Supremacists", aren't there sassy! lol!

I think you need to get out more love and stop reading "Socialist Worker"! lol!

No doubt you'll think that the BNP is full of "White Supremacists" too! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 9:12 am

There is a humerous angle to this discussion. When you compare the Burqua to the KKK uniform, there is absolutely no difference, apart from the colour and the shape of the hood. They are both equally unacceptable in a respectable civilised society. Both should be banned!!!.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 11:20 am

fred bloggs wrote:There is a humerous angle to this discussion. When you compare the Burqua to the KKK uniform, there is absolutely no difference, apart from the colour and the shape of the hood. They are both equally unacceptable in a respectable civilised society. Both should be banned!!!.

I absolutely agree Fred.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 11:24 am

MrDoodles wrote:Yeah, there's so many attacks in this Country by "White Supremacists", aren't there sassy! lol!

I think you need to get out more love and stop reading "Socialist Worker"! lol!

No doubt you'll think that the BNP is full of "White Supremacists" too! Rolling Eyes

If Nick is not one he would not be addressing the KKK and socialising with them.

Don't try and twist it Mr D, we were not talking about attacks, you said that I was delusional if I thought there were people who felt superior because of their colour and you were totally wrong.

I don't read the Socialist Worker, I read The Times, The Telegraph and The Guardian and do the puzzles in The Mail, its not fit for reading.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 12:45 pm

fred bloggs wrote:There is a humerous angle to this discussion. When you compare the Burqua to the KKK uniform, there is absolutely no difference, apart from the colour and the shape of the hood. They are both equally unacceptable in a respectable civilised society. Both should be banned!!!.

I hadn't thought about it that way before Fred. When I went on holiday to the Caribbean early in the year there was a lady on my plane a few seats away wearing a burka. I couldn't help being curious about her, I wanted to go and talk to her because the only muslim I know is Sexy Mama. She would have thought I was a real nutter (true!!! Smile).

I guess she may have been going to a private villa or something but I couldn't help thinking how hot she was going to be in that get up? Her husband was dressed in western clothes. It can't be practical surely?

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Re: "Milly Dowler case reminds us that ‘Racism Cuts Both Ways’"

Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 1:43 pm

sassy1261 wrote:

Don't try and twist it Mr D, we were not talking about attacks, you said that I was delusional if I thought there were people who felt superior because of their colour and you were totally wrong.


Amazing though isn't it, that "colour" racism" and "white supremacists" were all brought into the thread, by the so-called "Liberal"! Wink

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 4:21 pm

MrDoodles wrote:

Amazing though isn't it, that "colour" racism" and "white supremacists" were all brought into the thread, by the so-called "Liberal"! Wink

Not in the least bit amazing Mr D, because the 'so-called Liberal' recognises that the leaders of the BNP are exactly that, or they would not address or socialise with the KKK. The 'so-called right wing' person wants to close his eyes to it, because it makes him feel uncomfortable to recognise the truth.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 15, 2011 8:36 pm

sassy1261 wrote:

Not in the least bit amazing Mr D, because the 'so-called Liberal' recognises that the leaders of the BNP are exactly that, or they would not address or socialise with the KKK. The 'so-called right wing' person wants to close his eyes to it, because it makes him feel uncomfortable to recognise the truth.

Whatever! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

I know where my allegiances lie and it's with my own kind and it's a shame more don't feel the same way! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Sad Sad

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